Quantcast
Jump to content









Do you charge or not charge in this scenario?


Recommended Posts

Your technician performs an oil change or state inspection and finds a side marker light bulb out.  The CSA gets approval from the customer to replace the bulb.  The technician performs the labor to gain access to the bulb.  The technician finds that water intrusion has caused damage to the socket.  The CSA notifies the customer but the customer declines the service.  Do still charge for the labor portion of the originally approved bulb service as this was already performed but the bulb was not replaced?  Do you not charge anything at all because the issue was not resolved?

Link to comment
Share on other sites










This is one of those things you will come to learn through experience.

I charge it, but before you make any decisions let me tell you how is it that I have arrived at my position. -How well do you know this customer? I have learned through experience that a light bulb out, is not always just a burn light bulb. Teach this to your Service Advisors, and techs, although techs should already know this. I learned early on that Mercedes and BMWs would suffer from defective sockets, VW, Fords, whatever. So before you offer and service, make sure you have an idea of what the worse case scenario can be.

So, in this particular case, I would have had the tech check to make sure it was only a bulb that was needed before calling the customer or would have told the customer that a light was out and we didn't if it was a burn bulb, fuse, or socket. That way you would have not surprised the customer if he declined the repair.

So depending how good this customer is, and how well I know them, I would charge them for the install and tell them I would give them a credit when they want return for the complete repair. The point is, you want to keep the customer if he is worth it.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the replies Joe and Harry.  

To answer Joe's questions:  The vehicle was a new vehicle with low mileage.  The customer suspected that it might be covered under warranty and wanted to take it to the dealer to verify.  It was a first time customer who had no previous work history with our shop.  The job was sold with the assumption that it was the bulb but upon further investigation by the technician, the socket had been damaged due to rain intrusion.  We charged for the bulb service labor but did not charge for the part/bulb itself as this would not have resolved the customer's issue.  

To Harry:  How do you typically sell/price a light that has gone out on a vehicle from an oil change/state inspection?  Typically customers want a price before committing to a service and the price could vary based off of all of the different reasons why a light could be out.  We typically sell with the assumption that the bulb itself has gone out unless we can see obvious damage.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

1 hour ago, 5 Star Auto Spa said:

To Harry:  How do you typically sell/price a light that has gone out on a vehicle from an oil change/state inspection?  Typically customers want a price before committing to a service and the price could vary based off of all of the different reasons why a light could be out.  We typically sell with the assumption that the bulb itself has gone out unless we can see obvious damage.

5 Star, I don't have to tell you, everything is about communication. Know your customer is not only good policy for the banking industry, it is the same with us. For example, the cashier girl is more price sensitive than the IT engineer guy. So, when you offer a service, leave it open to additional work that may be needed. We do this all the time, " Joe, you have a light out, could be the bulb, but sometimes the connector melts or corrodes, we will check it out, ok." My point is to always manage expectations to provide the best customer experience.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the reply Harry.  In that scenario you just mentioned, what do you charge the customer to "check it out"?  Is that service complimentary?  Do you charge for "checking it out" if the customer declines the service once you have told him what he/she needs to fix the issue?

Link to comment
Share on other sites

44 minutes ago, 5 Star Auto Spa said:

Thanks for the reply Harry.  In that scenario you just mentioned, what do you charge the customer to "check it out"?  Is that service complimentary?  Do you charge for "checking it out" if the customer declines the service once you have told him what he/she needs to fix the issue?

Hmm, I don't follow the question. Are you setting me up? :)

Well, I have to know what's it I am selling, so yeah complementary to check it out. But if I have to diagnose an electrical issue, I give the customer a preliminary estimate before we teardown. Again, know your customer. Keep in mind, there are opportunistic people that will not buy from you, but get anything you give them for free. ( I am sure you know this, but I am being verbose for the young guys that are learning the ropes.)

Edited by HarrytheCarGeek
a word
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Like Joe says, there is a lot of gray areas with issues like this in the business.  Like most of the other reply's here, a lot of it has to do with how you present it to the customer.  It's not totally clear from your post, but it sounds like your CSA presented the issue "bulb out"  and the solution "replace bulb" and the cost.  The customer agreed to the "cost" to "solve his issue".  So if the "issue" is not resolved, you cannot fault the customer for not wanting to pay the "cost".  A lot of customer's will understand, but it is not unreasonable for a customer to see this as unfair.  Now, if you state to the customer, "you have a bulb out and we need to start by finding out why, and that will cost x and if it is just a bulb, it will only be x", what you are selling them and what they agree to are very different.  That way there should be no conflict getting paid for it as you should. 

 

Scott        

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Have you checked out Joe's Latest Blog?

         1 comment
      I am going to borrow a quote from billionaire, Warren Buffet, “The best investment you can make is in yourself,” This statement, while simplistic, speaks volumes. A shop owner is much more than a boss, a shop owner is a leader. And leaders are solely responsible for the success of their team. This means that you must work hard and commit to a life of continuous learning and improvement. It also means that if the team fails, a leader must always blame himself or herself for that failure and find ways to improve.
      For your business to flourish, you must invest your time and energy in understanding what your role is in your company. It also means that you must be committed to continually improving your level of competence. This does not mean that every task is your responsibility. However, it does mean that the buck stops with you. If your business is not where it needs to be, or you are looking for increased growth, then it is your obligation to do the hard work and set goals, have the vision, perform the research, and develop the plan to achieve your overall objectives.
      When you invest in yourself to become the best leader and the best businessperson you can be, others around you will feed off your energy and your passion. This sends a strong message to everyone on your team that you have what it takes to bring the company to the next level.
      One last thing, another obligation to your company is assembling the right team of people around you. Once you have the right people, you need to invest in them too. Find what truly motivates them, not what you believe inspires them. Be a coach to your employees and always strive to bring out the best in them. Be strong with your convictions and expectations, build strong relationships with your employees, and don’t be afraid of admitting when you drop the ball.
      While Warren Buffet is best known for making billions of dollars with his investment strategies, I want to believe that this quote has its basis in something that money cannot buy.
  • Similar Topics

    • By Joe Marconi

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.

    • By tirengolf
      We have been looking in southern Florida at putting in some free-standing oil change facilities. I have had an automotive tire shop since 1961, I started with them in 1974. I became the owner 20 years later. I have watched and have a great plan to build  3 to 5 quickly. If anyone has any input, please let me know. Thanks, David
    • By Transmission Repair

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.

    • By carmcapriotto
      Carm Capriotto and Maryann Croce discuss the importance of attending industry conferences and how to maximize their value. They provide tips such as having a growth mindset, planning ahead, and taking action on what is learned. They emphasize the value of networking, exchanging contact information, and respecting sponsors, speakers, and vendors. They also recommend documenting insights, taking pictures and videos for social media, and representing your business professionally. After the conference, they suggest debriefing, discussing takeaways, and creating a plan of action.
      Maryann, Small Biz Vantage. Maryann’s previous episodes HERE.
      Show Notes
      Pre-Conference Preparation (00:06:41) Tips on how to prepare yourself before attending a conference, including having a growth mindset and planning for the event. Importance of Planning (00:08:08) The significance of planning for a conference based on the unique needs and stage of your business, including considering attendees, speakers, vendors, and training topics. Traveling Light and Allowing Extra Time (00:08:50) Advice on traveling light and allowing extra time to fully immerse yourself in the conference experience. The importance of networking (00:11:39) Tips on networking at conferences and the value of connecting with new people and sharing knowledge. Respecting sponsors, associations, and speakers (00:13:19) The importance of showing respect to the individuals and organizations involved in the conference and providing constructive feedback. Debriefing and creating an action plan (00:18:53) Scheduling time to discuss takeaways from the conference and creating a plan of action to implement the knowledge gained. The importance of accountability partners (00:20:01) Discussing the benefits of having an accountability partner and the impact it can have on personal and professional growth. The value of debriefing after a conference (00:21:10) Highlighting the importance of debriefing with your team after attending a conference to discuss what worked, what didn't, and to align everyone's understanding. Choosing the right words for team alignment (00:22:21) Exploring the significance of using the term "align" instead of "buy-in" when trying to get your team on board with ideas, to foster collaboration and shared goals. Thanks to our Partners, AAPEX and NAPA TRACS
      Set your sights on Las Vegas in 2023. Mark your calendar now … October 31 - Nov 2, 2023, AAPEX - Now more than ever. And don’t miss the next free AAPEX webinar. Register now at http://AAPEXSHOW.COM/WEBINAR
      NAPA TRACS will move your shop into the SMS fast lane with onsite training and six days a week of support and local representation. Find NAPA TRACS on the Web at http://napatracs.com/
      Connect with the Podcast:
      -Join our Insider List: https://remarkableresults.biz/insider
      -All books mentioned on our podcasts: https://remarkableresults.biz/books
      -Our Classroom page for personal or team learning: https://remarkableresults.biz/classroom
      -Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/carm
      -The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com
      -Special episode collections: https://remarkableresults.biz/collections
           
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • Fast Free Shipping on All Orders Over $50
    • By Transmission Repair

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.



  • Our Sponsors



×
×
  • Create New...