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Pay was not the issue. The problems were: (1)I did not have a bunch of good ones to start. (2)The best one I had started sleeping with another tech's wife and he became completely undependable plus it destroyed morale. That is the second time that has happened in the last few years. (3)Another tech I had developed heart trouble and could no longer do the work. (4)The replacements we hired didn't pan out. (5)Plus three of these were guys we hired as apprentices who just weren't worth hanging on to either due to attitude problems or lack of aptitude. The apprentices all had some experience and technical school.

Well you could adopt some teens to train or get some foster care teens to train.

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No it seems not.  I talk to many business owners and it's the same story.  People are now addicted to social media.  I was at a grocery store yesterday and the cola guy was restocking the shelves while on the phone. He stopped stocking and started walking up and down the row talking about nasty sex to his buddy. Not the thing you want to hear while shopping.

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8 hours ago, xrac said:

Is there anyone in the US under the age of 25 who understand what having a job and working is all about.  No body wants to work because it is hard, and dirty and takes away from their time to stand around and text message.  I have hired 8 guys under the age of 25 in the last year trying to develop apprentices and I about the fire the last of the 8.  

xrac,  I think there are very few that know what hard work is.. As you said they want to be on social media or building super fast computers to play games on. They also think they can do their jobs by using the internet, google, or youtube. It is a totally different generation. The other big problem is they (well almost all of the general public) believe mechanics are rich, so they come in to the job expecting to make a boat load of money.. they don't realize everyone starts at the bottom you don't start at the top .  

we recently hired an older guy to pick up the slack (small jobs , oil changes, tires , batteries, etc.) during his interview I asked him what he could do he replied everything. So I asked him again what do you know how to do he replied I have been doing this for 24 years . I asked again, I didn't ask how long I asked what can you do he replied I put engines in , transmissions in, I stopped him there ( that is a big red flag when you get an answer like that from a seasoned person that means I can't do any diagnostics etc.) I started to ask him about diagnostics, fuel trims , o2s evap systems etc common stuff he had no idea. He replied well I can call someone or you can help me.. Well I am there to make a living just as you are, I can not make a living for both of us. So we came to an agreement that he would get a 500 dollar salary a week with 40% commission (which I think 40% was too high for his qualifications ) so he can make more money if he works hard.. He agreed well this was on a Friday that Monday he was to start he called and said he had to go to Harbor freight and buy some tools, some crazy story that his tools were in his wife's car an the transmission went out.. Okay well I don't know any decent mechanic that can keep his tools in the trunk of a honda civic.  anyway he said he would come in tuesday.  Tuesday around 10:30 he was suppose to be there at 8 he shows up and wants to argue about his pay he needs at least 1000 a week salary . Ha no way not to mention you can't even show up on the first day then given another chance you come in two and a half hours late and want to argue a higher pay.. Needless to say he was sent packing not heard from again.

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I am lucky I have a 20 year old kid working for me now that has the maturity of someone twice his age. My only problem is figuring out how to keep him happy. He has a lot of learning to do but I know in the end it will be worth it. Trying to figure out hos pay has been tough he has some friends that have landed good paying jobs and I can't pay him those type wages yet. I did just give him an opportunity to make more by paying him 6 dollars a flat rate hour on top of his hourly pay.

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2 hours ago, xrac said:

Simon, isn't that par fir the course? You know what I mean don't you. 

100% I sit in on the interviews and actually conduct most of it even though I myself am just a Mechanic. But being at the same place for over 26 years I guess I know what it takes . 

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55 minutes ago, Andy Price said:

I am lucky I have a 20 year old kid working for me now that has the maturity of someone twice his age. My only problem is figuring out how to keep him happy. He has a lot of learning to do but I know in the end it will be worth it. Trying to figure out hos pay has been tough he has some friends that have landed good paying jobs and I can't pay him those type wages yet. I did just give him an opportunity to make more by paying him 6 dollars a flat rate hour on top of his hourly pay.

I can not look at it as a business owner since i am not one, but I can say I think what you are doing is correct.. Giving him a flate rate dollar amount on top of his salary is a good incentive. I think the most important thing is to be honest with him let him know the more he learns the more he can make especially with the flat rate. He needs to know it is a hard job with a huge learning curve that keeps on curving it never ends it does get easier the more you understand but you are always learning in this business. Also let him know that being the best he can being certified etc may help him in the long run. As I stated in my prior post most young ones believe they deserve top pay , but you must prove yourself and it will come (in most cases not so much in mine but that is another story) . The first 3 owners of the shop I am currently at were great like yourself helping me along pushing with incentives etc. The last few owners don't know the business just had money and thought it would be fun to own a station.  That being said a good owner with good mechanics of all levels will do just fine and be able to continue into the future as this automotive world becomes more and more complex... All the best to you and your business .

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Thanks guys. I just got lucky in finding this guy. I had overheard his mom talking about him being in a technician competition in high school sponsored by Ford and AAA. He then went national competition and finished 14. I called him up and asked of he needed a job he said sure. Two days after he started my other tech put his two weeks on to have his own lawn service. So for the past 2 years it has just been me and this guy while he was going to school he is now graduated from UNOH in Lima and working for me full time. I truly believe the good Lord was looking out for me by placing this kid in my life at the right time.

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      I recently spoke with a friend of mine who owns a large general repair shop in the Midwest. His father founded the business in 1975. He was telling me that although he’s busy, he’s also very frustrated. When I probed him more about his frustrations, he said that it’s hard to find qualified technicians. My friend employs four technicians and is looking to hire two more. I then asked him, “How long does a technician last working for you.” He looked puzzled and replied, “I never really thought about that, but I can tell that except for one tech, most technicians don’t last working for me longer than a few years.”
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So it has this like tremendous pain in your shoulder. And I've seen Kimberly,, give birth. I've seen her do all kinds of stuff in 25 plus years that we've been together. And I've never heard her. Yell in pain or anything like that. And oh, maybe that's what had happened. I'd gone and got you something to eat. And then I went and got me something to eat. And when I was coming back, I heard you hollering down the hallway I had. Kimberly Cotton (00:17:30) - Yeah, you hadn't probably been gone 20, 30 minutes maybe. And the pain all of a sudden hit me so hard. Kimberly Cotton (00:17:38) - So I pushed the nurses button and took them, you know, longer than I wanted to them for them to respond. But they finally responded and they said, can we help you? And I said, I need something for the pain. My I'm absolutely excruciating right now. And they said, what on the scale of what to what I'm like, I am above a ten. I mean, this is awful., and so it took them a little bit and then he could hear me moaning and groaning down the hallway, and I think he sprinted to the room after he could hear me., but it just hurts so bad., and it's the strangest thing I don't get it., but it wasn't just one shoulder. It was across my back, right at my clavicle. And it just so hurt, so bad until the pain medication finally kicked in., initially, I had only wanted to stay one night in the hospital, but everybody was like, just see how you feel. See how you're doing. Kimberly Cotton (00:18:41) - Well, the next day, the doctor,, comes. Another one comes in and takes me over, and he looks at me and he's like, yeah, you're spending another night. He could tell the pain on my face. And it wasn't constant, but it was just enough for him to say, yeah, we're going to up the dosage of your pain medication. And you're saying I'm like, okay, so but after they up the dosage, it was much better and much more manageable. Chris Cotton (00:19:07) - So, so out of all the things that they didn't tell us, this was kind of like the big moment or less and not right then. But,, so they wanted me to get her up and have her walking like at 8 p.m. that night. And so that happened. I think we took you for a walk before this happened. Yeah, but but what nobody told us was, was about 30 minutes before you get up to walk, call a nurse, have them give you the pain medication. That way, when you're sore and hurting after the walk, you've already been medicated and you're good to go. Chris Cotton (00:19:44) - So I think I think we walked you that night. I think we walked you a couple times that next day. And then I think the nurse that came in the following night was the one that was like, hey, you guys should be taking pain medication before you walk. And nobody, nobody told us that up until then. And that's,, that's like some Ron White. That's good information to know, right? Like. Yeah. Like,, that would have been handy. That would have been a little handy tidbit for people to tell us., so I, I think... Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
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