Quantcast
Jump to content









I think I am finally done with phone shoppers


Recommended Posts

I get all kinds of annoying phone calls all day long so maybe I am just a little bit extra agitated over this one particular phone call. Phone shopper calls up asks for our labor rate up front then asks about a particular repair (front window regulator 99 audi a4). Reluctantly I look up a price and give it to him. Of course next question is, "why so much" and "how much is the labor". I tell him the labor cost and he again asks, "whats your labor rate." I try to circumvent the question and explain to him that is the service price we charge. Phone shopper is relentless and keeps asking labor time labor time labor time. I finally cave because I am actually get fed up with the phone conversation and tell him its based off of 1.8 hours. Then his next question is, "Does it really take that long?". Asked about 3x even. Then he asks "how much to just close up the window and close the door." Told him we dont do that and we hung up.

 

Long story short there is no winning with these people. Some phone shoppers you can steer with asking questions like "May I ask where you got it diagnosed?" and go through the myriad of leading questions to get them to bring the car in for an inspection/diag HOWEVER there are just some (a lot) of people that only want one thing (PRICE AND ARE YOU THE CHEAPEST???). For my own sanity I think I will just have a no estimates over the phone policy. Regular menu price items such as oil changes and the like I will give out prices still.

 

Anyone else not give estimates over the phone? How do you handle a customer constantly asking labor rate and labor times?

 

If I had Service Advisors (and when I do!) I will probably have them take a more proactive approach to trying to convert phone shoppers but for my own sanity I think I am just going to tell them sorry no estimates. I think I do a decent job at SA however I have a low tolerance for BS.

 

 

Love to hear some thoughts and funny stories to pick my day up!

Link to comment
Share on other sites










We have gotten advice from other shops in the ATL area in our sector that says never to give a price over the phone but at the same time you miss out on some oppertuinities. From what weve found you have to have an 'elevator speech' for why they need to come to you vs anyone else when dealing with price shoppers.

When we have a situation when someone asks why so much on the phone we usually dont go into alot of detail on why that is other than the elevator speech. If theyre 'price shopping' that hard and interrogating you over every little thing its just a waste of your time and you dont want that type of customer anyway. End the conversation as soon as possible so you can get to the next call :P

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

We encounter the same problem, I guess it is somewhat inevitable in this type of business. We simply ask the customer to bring the vehicle in and we can give the price when the vehicle is here. That way we have all the information at hand (motor size, VIN #, etc). That in itself will designate a worthwhile customer.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Stopped giving estimates over the phone awhile back and haven't looked back since. Of course you will still give some basics like tire prices but for the most part, you are freed up. When customers call and ask for an estimate, just respond with "sure, when would you like to bring the car in?" If they wont bring the car in then you don't need them as a customer and they are just price shopping.

  • Like 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Phone shoppers should be encouraged to give you a return phone number, vin number of car and a time when they cam bring the car in for a free spot check.

When you call them back give them your estimate and schedule time to take a look.

I may even call them back thanking them for the chance to service them and their referrals. Many of my referrals were from people that have not come in. .

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Audi person you wrote about is probably driving a car way over his/her wallets ability to pay.I see this alot with 3rd and 4th owners of upscale cars.You were probably their 7th call and the first 6 woulndn't work on an Audi .

 

Personally I always give estimates over the phone.I question them on why they think they need this repair or service. I find alot of them are at a repair facility and they don't believe what they are being told. I had a person call us recently , they were at another repair facility and were being told that their alternator should be replaced for a cost of $700.00. The car was a 2003 toyota, the reason for replacing was the alternator was dirty. This was a 20 something year old female at the toyota dealership she normally went to and had gone to previously for other repairs. I gave her a price for an alternator and then told her to go anywhere else but there. She did come to us and she had a laundry list of recomendations, one of which was to replace an alternator because it was dirty.

 

My point in all this "these people" as you put it are looking for information because their car broke down and they have no idea the cost or the time involved and worst case scenarios are running through their heads, price is the only thing most know to ask but believe me they are listening to the tone and empathy or lack there of in your voice.

 

I'm not the cheapest or the most expensve in my market,but I get alot of these " price shoppers" because most shops wont give them the time of day. Some have even checked your shop out on yelp or google and just want to make sure they have enough money for the repair so they don't waste their time or yours.

 

We are in the service/relationship/repair buisness. None of that happens until "those people" make the decision to bring their vehicle in and start that relationship. You can spend hundreds on val-pac ads or money mailers giving away free stuff that costs you actual money or spend a little time and empathy and convince them they called the right place and have found someone who cares enough to listen to their problem and is willing to help .

 

If this sounds preachy or as a knock on you I apologize, it's not how it was meant,just offering a different perspective and the way I handle things here that works for me.

  • Like 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Phone shoppers can be a time-suck, but I have to say that we sell a TON of work over the phone. We have the usual caveats about pricing not being 100% accurate without having seen the vehicle, etc, and it usually works out well for everyone involved. Some time and patience invested in a potential customer who probably doesn't know or understand much about the technical aspects of their car can really pay dividends to the honest salesperson. Some of these people are looking for a relationship, not a quick fix.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

The Audi person you wrote about is probably driving a car way over his/her wallets ability to pay.I see this alot with 3rd and 4th owners of upscale cars.You were probably their 7th call and the first 6 woulndn't work on an Audi .

 

Personally I always give estimates over the phone.I question them on why they think they need this repair or service. I find alot of them are at a repair facility and they don't believe what they are being told. I had a person call us recently , they were at another repair facility and were being told that their alternator should be replaced for a cost of $700.00. The car was a 2003 toyota, the reason for replacing was the alternator was dirty. This was a 20 something year old female at the toyota dealership she normally went to and had gone to previously for other repairs. I gave her a price for an alternator and then told her to go anywhere else but there. She did come to us and she had a laundry list of recomendations, one of which was to replace an alternator because it was dirty.

 

My point in all this "these people" as you put it are looking for information because their car broke down and they have no idea the cost or the time involved and worst case scenarios are running through their heads, price is the only thing most know to ask but believe me they are listening to the tone and empathy or lack there of in your voice.

 

I'm not the cheapest or the most expensve in my market,but I get alot of these " price shoppers" because most shops wont give them the time of day. Some have even checked your shop out on yelp or google and just want to make sure they have enough money for the repair so they don't waste their time or yours.

 

We are in the service/relationship/repair buisness. None of that happens until "those people" make the decision to bring their vehicle in and start that relationship. You can spend hundreds on val-pac ads or money mailers giving away free stuff that costs you actual money or spend a little time and empathy and convince them they called the right place and have found someone who cares enough to listen to their problem and is willing to help .

 

If this sounds preachy or as a knock on you I apologize, it's not how it was meant,just offering a different perspective and the way I handle things here that works for me.

 

I appreciate the reply. I normally have no problem speaking to potential customers on the phone about their car related issues. I normally go through the "may I ask, where or who diagnosed the issue for you?" and so on. The ones that insists on a price and question your method of doing business even before they have met us or any monetary transaction are the ones that irk me. I don't get them too often however I do get them. These are the price shoppers from hell, nothing you tell them will make them differentiate your service from the next guy.

 

Also putting a number next to our service does absolutely nothing to help our cause. We are significantly more expensive than most of the shops around us (not including the dealer of course). Most of the shops in our area are far from being a modern professional service center so without the customer understanding our process we will never be able to sell our services. My original post was geared to the bottom dollar customers that want nothing more than to pay the lowest price and DO NOT want to understand that service and workmanship between 2 shops is completely different.

 

 

Phone shoppers can be a time-suck, but I have to say that we sell a TON of work over the phone. We have the usual caveats about pricing not being 100% accurate without having seen the vehicle, etc, and it usually works out well for everyone involved. Some time and patience invested in a potential customer who probably doesn't know or understand much about the technical aspects of their car can really pay dividends to the honest salesperson. Some of these people are looking for a relationship, not a quick fix.

 

I do generally try to strike up a conversation with most people over the phone however yes it is extremely time consuming and frustrating with the bad ones. After I collect their name/number/year/make/model I will be developing a phone script to explain our process and get the appointment. If after all that stuff (which should take less than 5 minutes) and they still insist on advance pricing that'll be the end of it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Have you checked out Joe's Latest Blog?

         0 comments
      Auto shop owners are always looking for ways to improve production levels. They focus their attention on their technicians and require certain expectations of performance in billable labor hours. While technicians must know what is expected of them, they have a limited amount of control over production levels. When all factors are considered, the only thing a well-trained technician has control over is his or her actual efficiency.
      As a review, technician efficiency is the amount of labor time it takes a technician to complete a job compared to the labor time being billed to the customer. Productivity is the time the technician is billing labor hours compared to the time the technician is physically at the shop. The reality is that a technician can be very efficient, but not productive if the technician has a lot of downtime waiting for parts, waiting too long between jobs, or poor workflow systems.
      But let’s go deeper into what affects production in the typical auto repair shop. As a business coach, one of the biggest reasons for low shop production is not charging the correct labor time. Labor for extensive jobs is often not being billed accurately. Rust, seized bolts, and wrong published labor times are just a few reasons for lost labor dollars.
      Another common problem is not understanding how to bill for jobs that require extensive diagnostic testing, and complicated procedures to arrive at the root cause for an onboard computer problem, electrical issue, or drivability issue. These jobs usually take time to analyze, using sophisticated tools, and by the shop’s top technician. Typically, these jobs are billed at a standard menu labor charge, instead of at a higher labor rate. This results in less billed labor hours than the actual labor time spent. The amount of lost labor hours here can cripple a shop’s overall profit.
      Many shop owners do a great job at calculating their labor rate but may not understand what their true effective labor is, which is their labor sales divided by the total labor hours sold. In many cases, I have seen a shop that has a shop labor rate of over $150.00 per hour, but the actual effective labor rate is around $100. Not good.
      Lastly, technician production can suffer when the service advisors are too busy or not motivated to build relationships with customers, which results in a low sales closing ratio. And let’s not forget that to be productive, a shop needs to have the right systems, the right tools and equipment, an extensive information system, and of course, great leadership.
      The bottom line is this; many factors need to be considered when looking to increase production levels. While it does start with the technician, it doesn’t end there. Consider all the factors above when looking for ways to improve your shop’s labor production.
  • Similar Topics

    • By carmcapriotto
      Thank you to RepairPal for sponsoring The Auto Repair Marketing Podcast. Learn more about RepairPal at https://repairpal.com/shops
      How To Get In Touch
      Group - Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind
      Website - shopmarketingpros.com 
      Facebook - facebook.com/shopmarketingpros 
      Get the Book - shopmarketingpros.com/book
      Instagram - @shopmarketingpros 
      Questions/Ideas - [email protected] 
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By carmcapriotto
      Raising labor rates is not just about increasing prices. It's about finding more value in the industry and positioning ourselves as professionals. Join our panel as they highlight the need for understanding the concept of effective labor rate, ensuring services are charged appropriately, viewing the business as a professional entity, providing a positive customer experience and addressing core business problems before raising labor rates. Our panelists encourage shop owners to take a comprehensive approach to their business strategy, considering all factors and not just focusing on raising labor rates. Aaron Woods, X-tra Mile Auto Care, Stillwater, OK. Institute for Automotive Business Excellence. Listen to Aaron’s previous episodes HERE Brent Fleischman, Yocum Automotive, Republic, MO. AutoFix Auto Shop Coaching. Listen to Brent's previous episodes HERE Jennifer Hulbert, Service Plus Automotive, Calcium, NY. Institute for Automotive Business Excellence. Listen to Jennifer's previous episodes HERE Show Notes:
      Raising Labor Rates: Importance and Impact (00:00:01) Discussion on the reasons to raise labor rates, the impact it can have on a business, and the need for a long-term strategy. Factors to Consider Besides Labor Rate (00:04:14) Exploration of other factors that contribute to a business's success, such as overall business strategy and addressing pain points. Calculating Effective Labor Rate (00:07:34) Importance of understanding and calculating effective labor rate, including the need to charge appropriately for all services provided. The mindset shift and the need to raise labor rates (00:08:33) Discussion on the importance of raising labor rates and positioning the industry as valuable and professional. The impact of undervaluing the industry (00:09:52) The negative effects of undervaluing the automotive industry, including difficulty in attracting technicians and obtaining loans. The bottom line and approaching the business as a business (00:12:10) The importance of considering the bottom line and treating the automotive business as a professional enterprise rather than a hobby. The importance of customer experience (00:17:59) Discussion on how people buy feelings and the need to focus on providing a positive experience in the automotive industry. Sharing new labor rates with the team (00:18:39) Importance of communicating labor rate changes to the team and how it helps maintain profit structure and make investments. Effective labor rate and its impact (00:19:03) Exploration of effective labor rate, its calculation, and the need to consider menu jobs and their effect on gross profit dollars per hour. The importance of personnel and procedural issues (00:27:40) Discussion on identifying whether the problem lies with personnel or procedural issues in a shop and the need to align the shop's mission and vision statements with its culture. Addressing cultural issues and offering training (00:28:50) Exploration of the top-down approach in addressing cultural issues, identifying personalities, offering training, and monitoring staff to create long-term relationships with customers. Considerations before raising labor rates (00:30:07) Importance of analyzing gross profit percentages, solving core problems, and focusing on profitability and core processes before considering raising labor rates.
      Thanks to our Partners Shop-Ware and Delphi Technologies Shop-Ware: More Time. More Profit. Shop-Ware Shop Management https://getshopware.com/ Delphi Technologies: Keeping current on the latest vehicle systems and how to repair them is a must for today’s technicians. http://DelphiAftermarket.com Connect with the Podcast -Follow on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/RemarkableResultsRadioPodcast/ -Follow on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carmcapriotto/ -Follow on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/remarkableresultsradiopodcast/ -Follow on Twitter: https://twitter.com/RResultsBiz -Join our Insider List: https://remarkableresults.biz/insider -All books mentioned on our podcasts: https://remarkableresults.biz/books -Our Classroom page for personal or team learning: https://remarkableresults.biz/classroom -Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/carm -The Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com -Special episode collections: https://remarkableresults.biz/collections      
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • By Transmission Repair

      Premium Member Content 

      This content is hidden to guests, one of the benefits of a paid membership. Please login or register to view this content.

    • By carmcapriotto
      Join Matt Fanslow as he answers some questions from his listeners in his 'mailbag.' Matt discusses the hiring bonus dilemma, compensation and profit sharing, the power of training, the flat rate pay system, book recommendations and how to create a network of industry peers.
      Have a question for Matt to answer? Email him at: [email protected]
      Show Notes
      Hiring Bonuses for New Techs (00:02:27) Discussion on the fairness and impact of hiring bonuses for new technicians and how it affects existing employees. Broken System of Compensation (00:04:58) Exploration of the different ways technicians are compensated and how it can lead to resentment and difficulties in hiring new technicians. Ethical Profit and Long-Term Benefits (00:07:31) Explanation of how Matt's shop rewards employees based on ethical profit and how hiring bonuses can benefit both the shop and existing employees in the long term. The Mismanagement of Compensation (00:09:59) Discussion about the mismanagement of compensation in the aftermarket automotive industry and the potential impact on employees. Concerns about Flat Rate Pay (00:13:33) Addressing concerns about transitioning to a flat rate pay system and the potential negative impact on technicians' income and job satisfaction. Recommended Books for Auto Repair (00:19:49) Discussion on the importance of reading books on auto repair Building a Network in the Automotive Industry (00:26:06) Advice on how to build a network of connections in the automotive industry, including attending trade shows and utilizing social media. The importance of networking (00:29:42) The value of building relationships and networking in the automotive industry.  
      Thanks to our Partner, NAPA Autotech napaautotech.com
       
      Email Matt: [email protected]
      Diagnosing the Aftermarket A - Z YouTube Channel HERE
      Aftermarket Radio Network: https://aftermarketradionetwork.com/
       
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio
    • Incfile.com
    • By carmcapriotto
      Thanks to our partner, RepairPal. Visit the Web HERE
      How To Get In Touch
      Group - Auto Repair Marketing Mastermind
      Website - shopmarketingpros.com 
      Facebook - facebook.com/shopmarketingpros 
      Get the Book - shopmarketingpros.com/book
      Instagram - @shopmarketingpros 
      Questions/Ideas - [email protected] & [email protected]
      Click to go to the Podcast on Remarkable Results Radio


  • Our Sponsors



×
×
  • Create New...