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I am in need of another employee. I have a 3 bay shop and have myself doing just about everything including service writing, bookkeeping and wrenching and one employee who is an apprentice. I do a lot of hard to do stuff such as rebuilding transmissions, diagnostic work, some Euro cars. It has been very difficult to find a tech to work for what I can afford to pay and one that can do the work so I am thinking about a service advisor. I'm looking for ideas on different pay types for service advisors and any other input on this situation. I've been hesitant on hiring also because of the slow periods and uncertainty in the economy. It has been getting busier and I won't be able to work like this if it continues to get busier.

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I am in need of another employee. I have a 3 bay shop and have myself doing just about everything including service writing, bookkeeping and wrenching and one employee who is an apprentice. I do a lot of hard to do stuff such as rebuilding transmissions, diagnostic work, some Euro cars. It has been very difficult to find a tech to work for what I can afford to pay and one that can do the work so I am thinking about a service advisor. I'm looking for ideas on different pay types for service advisors and any other input on this situation. I've been hesitant on hiring also because of the slow periods and uncertainty in the economy. It has been getting busier and I won't be able to work like this if it continues to get busier.

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You need to figure out which is best for your business plan , hiring an service advisor can make or break your business. You have explained you do a lot of the expertise of your reapir side , can you hire yourself to do the mechanical. It still will be hard to leed when you are busy with the wrench's. Thier are many dedicated s/a's but you own the buisness and not being at the counter will not build boneding and committment that a business neeeds to servive today's competition.

I hate the frt , but it was a decision after taking ATI training that was needed for our business model to servive. I loved wrenching and was an excellent tech. By changeing and getting the owners up frt we have increased revenue and stabilized profit. We still have hard work each day due to the economy. The roller coaster effect is an cop out for slow times , need to make a bwetter marketing plan if you still have a roller coaster effect.

This may be harsh but most shops wait for work to come in , We aggressively seek work every day.

 

Thanks Dan R.

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Thanks for the respnose Dan. Part of the reason for a service advisor is when I need to be away from the shop I must close up or I have left my apprentice there for a few hours if I have to. I would like business to go on if I have to be away. If I have a service advisor with tech experience and an apprentice I could leave if I have to. Right now everything depends on me.

You need to figure out which is best for your business plan , hiring an service advisor can make or break your business. You have explained you do a lot of the expertise of your reapir side , can you hire yourself to do the mechanical. It still will be hard to leed when you are busy with the wrench's. Thier are many dedicated s/a's but you own the buisness and not being at the counter will not build boneding and committment that a business neeeds to servive today's competition.

I hate the frt , but it was a decision after taking ATI training that was needed for our business model to servive. I loved wrenching and was an excellent tech. By changeing and getting the owners up frt we have increased revenue and stabilized profit. We still have hard work each day due to the economy. The roller coaster effect is an cop out for slow times , need to make a bwetter marketing plan if you still have a roller coaster effect.

This may be harsh but most shops wait for work to come in , We aggressively seek work every day.

 

Thanks Dan R.

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Thanks for the respnose Dan. Part of the reason for a service advisor is when I need to be away from the shop I must close up or I have left my apprentice there for a few hours if I have to. I would like business to go on if I have to be away. If I have a service advisor with tech experience and an apprentice I could leave if I have to. Right now everything depends on me.

 

 

This is a rough position we all have been thier starting out. One thing tech experiance is not your best sales person on front counter we have found.

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I have been through quite a bit of training myself and have been looking for a tech for a few years now and it has been very hard. Been through a few. It might be because I started out my business a s transmission specialty shop, one day I am rebuilding transmissions another I am diagnosing and another doing engine work etc. Its hard to find someone who can do it all. As far as the easy work brakes, front end etc I hate to compete and lowball for the work that everybody wants. I could use more of that work though.

This is a rough position we all have been thier starting out. One thing tech experiance is not your best sales person on front counter we have found.

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