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So I have my Service Advisor off to training for a few days in San Diego and that means I am manning the front end. I am pretty dang good at talking to people I would like to think but had to present some pricing to a customer and all he kept saying when a price for a job was given was, "Wowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww." I just realized how much I dislike talking to people in a Service Advisor capacity. Like I really can't stand it LOL. That is not to say I don't like speaking to my customers because I do. I just hate the daily grind of dealing with the one off customer that has unrealistic expectations that no one can meet. God bless all your service advisors out there. I am about ready to hire my second one just so I never have to do this again haha.

 

 

Moral of the story is if you ever have that type of feeling then its high time to get a service advisor! Make sure they are a people person too, that helps!!!

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I am right there with you bro, I can talk to my customers all day about what needs to be done to their vehicle, what to do while your in alaska, and everything else under the sun. But as soon as its time to take someones money, or tell them how much their repairs are going to be I hate it.

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I don't necessarily mind asking for the sale however there are just certain people that cannot be pleased when it comes to dollars. They can be the nicest sweetest people but they cannot be parted with their money and its the most frustrating thing to deal with at times. I literally have no problem taking home a bit less if it means that I don't have to deal with that annoyance.

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These are the people that will never be happy. I have a few of them. The funny thing is they keep coming back. They also refer friends and family.

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I don't have a lot of patience for that either. We can talk politics, we can talk about eastern Europe, we can talk about their car all day but the minute they suggest my techs time is worthless the conversation is over Its really quite simple - this is broke, it costs this much to fix it. If they "weeelll the guy down the road said..." I lean into the shop and say "put it outside and bring in Mrs smiths car" thanks have a good day. I'm busy, I don't have time to play lets make a deal. "How much cash no tax?" Yea right call Albany and apply for a tax # and ask for a refund at the end of the quarter.

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Got to love 'em all! We see about 300 cars per month at my shop and naturally we're going to have a few of them that don't like the prices. Like you've all said, it isn't worth discounting and fighting over. I have a bigger issue with folks who lean up against my glass walls watching their car like a hawk asking questions about what we're doing and why in a demanding and rude manner. Had a customer freak out about how we took off a spin on oil filter because whomever did it last time over-torqued it and it collapsed with the filter tool. We had to take him out there and show him all while he's cussing and yelling. After about five minutes of being patient and explaining I finally told him I can't have him freaking out in my shop upsetting my other customers and staff. 'I know what I saw and if I have problems YOU'RE going to fix them!", he yells. I walk up to him, look him in the eye and said "I know you think you know what you saw but your truck is going to be just great or I will fix it at my cost." He just stares back at me and I at him. When we finished I have the Tech put the car up in the air to show him nothing is wrong with his truck, nothing is damaged, everything is fine. He again persists with his line of doubtful questioning and I say, "I've already told you this but I will go through it again..." He calms down and apologizes about five times, comes back the next day for tie rod ends and couldn't be nicer. Says to me, "I'm from Brooklyn, this is how we are. Where are you from?" I'm from here in Iowa and tell him. "I'm not so sure you're not from Brooklyn, too." We laughed and we have a new customer.

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Got to love 'em all! We see about 300 cars per month at my shop and naturally we're going to have a few of them that don't like the prices. Like you've all said, it isn't worth discounting and fighting over. I have a bigger issue with folks who lean up against my glass walls watching their car like a hawk asking questions about what we're doing and why in a demanding and rude manner. Had a customer freak out about how we took off a spin on oil filter because whomever did it last time over-torqued it and it collapsed with the filter tool. We had to take him out there and show him all while he's cussing and yelling. After about five minutes of being patient and explaining I finally told him I can't have him freaking out in my shop upsetting my other customers and staff. 'I know what I saw and if I have problems YOU'RE going to fix them!", he yells. I walk up to him, look him in the eye and said "I know you think you know what you saw but your truck is going to be just great or I will fix it at my cost." He just stares back at me and I at him. When we finished I have the Tech put the car up in the air to show him nothing is wrong with his truck, nothing is damaged, everything is fine. He again persists with his line of doubtful questioning and I say, "I've already told you this but I will go through it again..." He calms down and apologizes about five times, comes back the next day for tie rod ends and couldn't be nicer. Says to me, "I'm from Brooklyn, this is how we are. Where are you from?" I'm from here in Iowa and tell him. "I'm not so sure you're not from Brooklyn, too." We laughed and we have a new customer.

 

 

Nice story! I think I would have fired him immediately... and my shop is a mile away from Brooklyn! LOL

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I actually like talking to people, and selling stuff. My issue is I love fixing stuff more. I find myself routinely getting too technical with customers and usually by the end of the convo they are out there floating by the moon, That is where my buddy comes in. He has a very direct, passive aggressive approach. I laugh at how stupid he sounds sometimes, and ppl are like oh ok! Yeah lets do it.

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      The Technician Shortage Is Our Fault, And It's Time We Own It
      Nearly every day, I hear shop owners complain: "There's a technician shortage. We can't find qualified people. There's no one out there." If that's true, then who's to blame?
      The industry? The schools? The government? I don't know how you feel, but who promised us an endless supply of qualified technicians?
      Another common complaint is that young people do not want to work in the trades. Well, if that were true, then why are other trades such as HVAC, electrical, and plumbing growing? What are they doing that the automotive industry is not? 
      Here's the reality we need to face: We do have a problem, but we shouldn't look for someone or any entity to rescue us. Not the government. Not the trade schools. Not the recruiting companies. No one owes us a workforce. If we want great people in our industry, it's up to us. At some point, we need to own up to the truth: Building a pipeline of qualified technicians is our responsibility.
      In this blog article, I will break down the key reasons we are in this situation today and what we, as an industry, can do to solve the technician shortage. Are you ready to look in the mirror?
      Have We Pushed Technicians Away?
      Let's take a look at flat-rate pay. True flat rate, which pays a technician only for the hours they produce, is a controversial pay plan that emphasizes high production levels and creates a competitive work environment that, if not properly controlled, can lead to increased mistakes and a decline in morale and team spirit. Additionally, the stress and physical demands placed on technicians as they age are not favorable to long-term employee retention. What do we do with technicians as they grow older into their fifties and begin to slow down? 
      I have heard all the arguments and pros and cons of flat-rate pay, and I am not going to judge any pay plan. Let the facts speak for themselves. True flat rate has changed in most areas around the country and has evolved into a pay plan that gives technicians some pay guarantee.
      Many shop owners have learned that team morale, along with the opportunity to earn income, is important to technicians and to the company's long-term success. But let me ask you: how many technicians have left or been pushed out over the years because of the old flat-rate pay system?
      Another issue is the workplace environment. I remember being grateful to be hired as a young technician at a local repair shop. While very thankful, the work environment was not ideal. The shop owner kept the bay doors open year-round (I am from New York) unless it rained or snowed. He felt that if the bay doors were closed, customers might think we were closed for business. We had no heat and no hot water. Many of the jobs were done outside, year-round,  in all types of weather. The starting pay was minimum wage, with no benefits, sick days, or vacation pay. 
      Now, again, I need to point out that I was truly grateful for the opportunity this shop owner gave me. I learned a lot working there, and the experience was pivotal in my career. But looking back, I wonder how many people were discouraged by these working conditions?
      While the physical demands of the repair workplace are daunting, perhaps even more critical is the culture. Too many of my generation shop owners preached the mindset of "my way or the highway." We were the business owners, after all. We started our companies, took all the risks, and provided jobs. Why shouldn't we be the ones to set the ground rules our way?   
      Many of us found over the years that the "my way or the highway" mentality was a sure way to isolate employees and make them more likely to look over the fence for greener grass. In other words, it led many technicians to seek employment elsewhere, where they felt they could be appreciated and recognized for their hard work. The issue, however, was that there wasn't much green grass around. Disappointment after disappointment, bouncing from repair to repair shop, eventually led to despair. So, I ask you: were workplace conditions a contributing factor in today's technician shortage?
      Another factor that we are all well aware of is the complexity of the modern automobile. When I started, the work was mostly physical, and you were required to master essentially three vehicle models: General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. Let's fast-forward to today. The evolution of automotive technology, along with the extensive training and tools required, has outpaced the typical technician's pay compensation, with no clear career path. Again, leading to frustration and insecurity about the future.
      Here is the bottom line: people don't leave their job; they leave their experience. We must do a better job. 
      The News Isn't all Bad; Your Next Steps to Fix the Technician Shortage
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      First, shop owners must become better leaders and understand that their ultimate success is directly dependent on the people they assemble around them. Any shop owner who mistakenly believes they can build an empire solely on their abilities is destined for serious disappointment. Business owners who think like this will eventually plateau. Without the collective contributions from a team of qualified people, your business will stall; it will not continue to grow.
      Create a workplace that attracts top talent: a clean, professional, well-equipped facility designed to support productivity, teamwork, and a career, not just a job. Build a great reputation in your community by getting involved locally. Become the auto repair shop that people take notice of as "the" place to work.
      Next, shop owners must become more financially knowledgeable. Knowing your numbers and what you need to achieve for a strong bottom-line profit is essential to paying technicians the money they need and deserve. Profit will also allow you to compete with other trade industries by providing a benefits package that has real take-home value and security.
      When it comes to culture, this is where the rubber hits the road. People crave recognition, praise, and a sense of purpose. Despite what you hear, people are not just money-motivated. Once people feel secure in their financial situation, retaining and motivating technicians can only be achieved by connecting with them on an emotional level. You cannot show enough appreciation. Give out praise for a job well done as if your business depended on it, because it does.
      As technicians age, we need to have a place for them. Expecting a 58-year-old to perform like a 35-year-old is unrealistic. We need to be more focused on career pathing. Provide training, skill development, and coaching to develop leaders and mentors within our older workforce. While their bodies may have slowed, the knowledge they have gained is priceless. 
      Our future is dependent on young people entering our industry. We need to give more young people opportunities. Every shop owner across the country should consider hiring an apprentice, then build an apprentice training plan and career path for them. If every shop did this, we could solve the technician shortage within five years. Get involved with the trade schools and high schools in your area. Look into the NAPA Apprenticeship Program. Don't sit on your hands with this one. Do it today.
      Lastly, don't get left behind. Commit to ongoing training for all your employees. Keep up to date with tools and equipment tailored to your business model. Don't try to be all things to all people and all vehicles. Identify your core profile customer and the vehicles they drive, and become an expert on those vehicles and the services you offer.
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