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Are you flexible on your pricing?

 

Are you willing to negotiate?

 

If I pay cash can you do better?

 

Oh... I was referred to by So and so... You know uhhh... I forgot his name...

 

 

We've all heard it and I am just about sick of it. I have a professional website, courteous and profession manner in which we greet customers, high reputation with a niche market (German cars). What in god's green earth screams I will give you a discount????

 

How do you yall deal with this ? I don't receive these types too often but I had a series of them today compounded with other aggravation and I just had about enough.

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Are you flexible on your pricing?

 

Are you willing to negotiate?

 

If I pay cash can you do better?

 

Oh... I was referred to by So and so... You know uhhh... I forgot his name...

 

 

We've all heard it and I am just about sick of it. I have a professional website, courteous and profession manner in which we greet customers, high reputation with a niche market (German cars). What in god's green earth screams I will give you a discount????

 

How do you yall deal with this ? I don't receive these types too often but I had a series of them today compounded with other aggravation and I just had about enough.

I've got a dealer who expects me to cut my labor rate in half. If I don't give in he still has us do the work. Just stand your ground, smile and say "we offer a 10% discount for members of the armed services and police officers (or something similar)"

If they can't take that hint, I don't care to have them as customers. I let this indy dealer walk all over me this week but it'll come out in the wash lol

 

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The used car dealers are the worse. They promise you all of this work and then they disappear and you never see them again or they want to charge everything and then never pay the bill and close up shop.

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We are headed down the road of no return if we continue to let people dictate to us how to do business. Can anyone walk into Starbucks and say, "Hey bud, that cup of coffee is way too high, the deli up the block sells a cup for 59cents. Can't you do better?"

 

Now, before you tell me that it's not the same, it is. And until we realize that it's the same, we are all going to suffer.

 

We put too much emphasis on WHAT we do, instead of WHO we are.

 

You can get a water pump or an alignment anywhere, right? Just like you can get milk or eggs anywhere. And that's the problem, if the consumer sees little difference from shop to shop, price becomes the issue.

 

Now, I ask you, Can you get a Starbucks anywhere? No, because Starbucks does not sell coffee, they sell, "the experience of going to a Starbucks"

 

Have an open mind here. Position your shop differently and get the clientele you want and appreciates you.

 

Don't sell water pumps or alignments....sell quality, community focused, world class service, great warranties, the experience,etc.

 

My thoughts, agree or disagree?

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It's been a long standing argument whether or not to have pricing the same at each shop or some sort of standard price for each job. Starbucks doesn't care that the diner down the street is selling a cup of java for a dime, or any other places prices.

 

It really isn't the price that keeps people coming back it's the quality and whether or not that particular person fits the atmosphere of "that" particular shop.

 

Selling yourself short by offering discounts (especially to those used car dealers) just invites more frustration.

 

Set your standard price, offer discounts as you see fit, but the bottom line is........ make a living.

 

I'm not a bargain hunters repair shop by any means, and I'm constantly asked to lower a price or do something cheaper. Ah, Starbucks isn't going to negotiate the price of a latte, and I'm not going to change my prices because you don't want to spend the cash... and YES... it really is the same thing, different products, different services, but it's still business between the shop and the consumer.

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I will play the negotiating game with a customer. Lets be real, car repairs are a big expense, and who in the right mind DOES NOT negotiate big expenses?

 

Just a quick list of stuff I did not pay asking for: House (and investment properties), vehicles, my shop, my parking lot, my roof for my office, my lifts, virtually all of my high-end Snap-On equipment, tire machine & balancer, towing discount with local company.

 

If a customer comes in and wants to talk their way into saving $20 off a set of 4 tires. Sure why not. Its $5 a tire whooptie-dooo. I'd rather make $100+ on a tire sale, mount & install that takes less then 90 minutes then send it down the road to the National Tire chain. If I quote a customer $2,000 for an engine job and we have $1300 in labor on it, sure I can take the $100 hit to secure the job and not send it down the road to my competitor.

 

Some of you can't, and its probably because your overhead costs are killing you alive since you did NOT negoiate anything. Heck I even negoiated my INTERNET pricing with our local cable provider. They wanted $70 a month since it was a "business". I got it for the $35 month residential rate. Business insurance, yep they can lower that bill when you ask without cutting out any converage.

 

I don't often get the guy in looking to chew me down on a price. To be honest its usually the foreigners. I guess growing up with "foreigner parents" I got use to the customary "lets make a deal". For the few times a month somebodies ask, I normally will come down a little to secure the job, its not running me out of business, it keeps the bays full, and a lot of these customers have been repeat and brought me a lot of work.

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I get Duke's outlook here and we will do that negotiating sometimes particularly on big jobs. But we are a small independent shop and it kills me because these same people don't ask Pep Boys, Meineke, Monroe, etc to discount - or if they do they don't get it. It seems like we are "targeted" because we are an independent "mom/pop" and people think it's okay to ask us when they wouldn't ask another shop that same question.

 

Also, everyone wants us to make a deal but it ticks me off when they come in and tell me they paid $800 for a brake job last month and they didn't even call us and our normal price is maybe $300. They had no problem paying $800 out to that shop. We hear it all the time. I'd LOVE to do your brake job for $800 - I'll just triple my normal price.

 

And like Joe - I have a favorite analogy - these people don't go to Walmart - fill up their cart and then start haggling/negotiating with the checkout clerk on the price.

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I would agree that some negotiations is part of our business, especially on larger jobs. Too me it has a lot more to do with the customer's approach. I am much less likely to negotiate with someone who outright complains about the price, as if you are robbing them blind. But if approached with the right attitude, I usually try to give something back to show that I am willing to work with the customer and these customer's are usually the ones you are looking to keep.

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It's part of the game. Times are tough. Most people just want someone to listen to there plight. Listen and speak with soft compassion because there but the grace goes you and I.

 

I remember seeing fist fights at the dealer in 1970,s over the $29.00 per hour rate or a price of a $1.25 spark plug.

Always price your job's with a discount in mind.

 

Referrals are what you want.

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      It always amazes me when I hear about a technician who quits one repair shop to go work at another shop for less money. I know you have heard of this too, and you’ve probably asked yourself, “Can this be true? And Why?” The answer rests within the culture of the company. More specifically, the boss, manager, or a toxic work environment literally pushed the technician out the door.
      While money and benefits tend to attract people to a company, it won’t keep them there. When a technician begins to look over the fence for greener grass, that is usually a sign that something is wrong within the workplace. It also means that his or her heart is probably already gone. If the issue is not resolved, no amount of money will keep that technician for the long term. The heart is always the first to leave. The last thing that leaves is the technician’s toolbox.
      Shop owners: Focus more on employee retention than acquisition. This is not to say that you should not be constantly recruiting. You should. What it does means is that once you hire someone, your job isn’t over, that’s when it begins. Get to know your technicians. Build strong relationships. Have frequent one-on-ones. Engage in meaningful conversation. Find what truly motivates your technicians. You may be surprised that while money is a motivator, it’s usually not the prime motivator.
      One last thing; the cost of technician turnover can be financially devastating. It also affects shop morale. Do all you can to create a workplace where technicians feel they are respected, recognized, and know that their work contributes to the overall success of the company. This will lead to improved morale and team spirit. Remember, when you see a technician’s toolbox rolling out of the bay on its way to another shop, the heart was most likely gone long before that.
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