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There's always been a difference between the professional automotive technician and the weekend mechanic. These days the gap is growing ever wider with the technology changes. However, a lot of DIY'rs still are doing repairs at home and believe they know more than the professional tech even after admitting they don't know what they aredoing. Not to say there isn't adifference between the levels of knowledge at the corner repair shop and the next shop down the street. Sure, always has been. But, that's a result of experience, education and what type of repair is common to that certain repair facility... nobody knows it all. But, imagine how much difference there is between the uneducated, unfamiliar, and down right dumber than dumb person who tries to repair their car at home.

 

I get a lot of these "home" repair guys in the shop with their family cars whose first claim to fame is how much money they are saving by doing the work themselves. Yes, professional auto care can be expensive, and in a lot instances you can save a few bucks by doing the physical labor yourself. On the other hand, there's an assumption made that you know what you're doing. This is where a lot of socket jockeys get themselves into trouble. Now with small hand held scanners and meters out in the market place there's an even bigger chance of a complete disaster waiting to happen.

 

Take a problem I was involved with just a few weeks ago. A DIY'rs daughter's air conditioning wasn't working on a 99 Ford Escort. From his meager test results he saw a 12 volt reading at the clutch. His gut reaction was the clutch must be bad, which means a trip down to the local cheap-o-depot for a replacement compressor. After spewing the refrigerant into the atmosphere and more than likely a good amount of the oil he did managed to get the compressor replaced. Then he added a new can of refrigerant to the system. To put the second can in he had to start the car. Oh, oh...problem...the compressor still doesn't come on.

 

"I checked it again and I still had 12 volts so I don't know what's wrong with it now. That's the only reason I'm bringing it to you," the DIY'r tells me.

 

Knowing that most of these guys really don't want to spend a dime on repairs, especially something they feel they can do themselves I figured I would save him diagnostic time by helping him out a bit. I told him, "If you have 12 volts at the compressor sir, then it's most likely a bad coil on the compressor."

 

"Nope, can't be..., it's new"

 

I've lost count how many times somebody has told me the new part can't be the problem... because it's new. So I not only doubt the quality of his part but his test results as well.

 

"Well, then...there's only one of two things it can be. Either it's a bad coil on the compressor or... you really don't have 12 volts at the coil," I told him.

 

He still insisted he was right and that I needed to check it out further.

 

Once I had it in the service bay I checked the voltage at the coil. Hmmm, that's peculiar... no voltage. This car uses a unit called a CCRM (Constant Control Relay Module) this module has several purposes but the one I'm concerned with is the 12 volts for the compressor clutch. I checked the output lead that lead from the CCRM to the coil... nothing. I then checked the signal from the PCM that controls the activation signal to the internal relay for the compressor at theCCRM. Perfect, no problem there. The culprit in this case turns out to be a faulty CCRM. Not a big deal, I'll call him and let him know.

 

I gave him the option of doing the job himself, but he wanted me to do it since it was an "electrical" problem. All-righty then, I can do that, and while I'm at it I'll make sure he has the correct amount of refrigerant too. Everything seemed fine until he came to pickup the car. That's when this CrackerJack qualified DIY'r sticks his chest out and tells me his version of how to diagnose it and fix it. As usual, the wife is standing next to him for encouragement.

 

"I had 12 volts at the coil so why didn't it work?"

 

"Actually, there was no voltage at the coil."

 

"Are you telling me I don't know how to read a volt meter?"

 

"I'm saying you probably misread the meter, that's all."

 

"I've been fixing cars for years.You're not going to tell me I don't know what I'm doing. You did something else to the car! You electrical guys have a trick to making things work and then I've got to pay for it!"

 

"No, I'm afraid not. I replaced the CCRM and recharged the system with the proper amount of refrigerant."

 

"I can put the refrigerant in."

 

"How much did you plan on adding?"

 

"I keep adding more until it's cold."

 

"That's not a good practice sir; you should put in the amount it's supposed to have."

 

"I guess you assume I don't know whatI'm doing at all... do ya?"

 

You can imagine the rest of the conversation. I've stood at the service counter for many years and have been on the receiving end of these DIY'rs retributions before. Nothing new, might as well take their abusive comments, straighten the desk a little, jot a few notes down and wait for them to finish. (Never interrupt them... it will only take longer.) In his mind and explanation, (as usual) I turn out to be not only acomplete idiot, but have no reason for being in business. Obviously as he stated, I've been at this car stuff for nearly 30 years and have been doing it entirely wrong all this time. (Glad I found out now... geez...another couple of years of doing it wrong would have been devastating.) You know, after spending time in classes, schools, conventions and on the job perfecting my trade, I find that listening to these wanna-be mechanics blare out their reasons for owning a tool box only amounts to a whole lot hot air.

 

Well, one thing is for sure... he left the shop with cold air in his car. Maybe he needs to drive around for a while and cool off. Then go home, take a class or something in the proper use of a multimeter. I don't like to assume I know, because all it does is make an ass out of U and me. There are plenty of tech schools and on line classes out there that will teach you how to be a mechanic.

 

The old saying says it best; Stupid's free...but you pay for knowledge... the pros know it already... the novice just assumes it.


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Don't you love working on a vehicle owned by someone who knows more than you. My brother-in-law is like that. He had what I suspect to have been an AC relay out on his wife's Toyota Corolla but couldn't figure it out. He direct wired the compressor and then blames his wife for forgetting to turn off the toggle switch he installed on the dash. He eventually he got rid of the car because he was too cheap to take the car to someone who could do a proper repair. I only got involved after the fact since he lives down near Knoxville, TN. The original problem would have been an affordable repair just like this guy you are writing about. Your guy bought a new AC compressor that more than likely he never needed.

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I know what ya mean Frank. And you know the biggest thing that gets me is that they still walk out the door as if they're right. Even though they had no clue as to how to fix it... they still have that chip on their shoulder that they know how to do it, and I'm still an idiot. Go figure....

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This is one of those articles that probably won't ever get published. I'm sure a lot of my editors will say it's too harsh for publication. OK, maybe so... but... I will also tell them that this is something that happens every once in a while at every service counter, every small garage, and every shop I've ever talked to.

 

It's more of an article just to say, "Hey, you're not alone... we've all been there."

If you agree... leave a comment.

I'd like a little "fire" power when I bring it to the editors.

 

 

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Well, I do hope it gets published, I agree with Frank. The world should know what we go through. Plus, it would be great for other shop owners to see that we are all in the same boat. While I was reading your article I didn’t know if I should laugh at this guy or spit nails.

 

I too had a recent situation with a DIYer who replaced his compressor and charged the system by the seat of his pants. He over charged the system and couldn’t get the compressor to turn on. The first things out his mouth were, “I just spent a lot of money on this car, so go easy on me”.

 

Gonzo, please keep putting on paper what most of know but may not know how to express!

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At this point ... I'm too stupid to do anything else but write about it, fix a car or two... and spit nails. Might as well laugh about it while I can. Thanx again Joe for your support.

Well, I do hope it gets published, I agree with Frank. The world should know what we go through. Plus, it would be great for other shop owners to see that we are all in the same boat. While I was reading your article I didn't know if I should laugh at this guy or spit nails.

 

I too had a recent situation with a DIYer who replaced his compressor and charged the system by the seat of his pants. He over charged the system and couldn't get the compressor to turn on. The first things out his mouth were, "I just spent a lot of money on this car, so go easy on me".

 

Gonzo, please keep putting on paper what most of know but may not know how to express!

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      It always amazes me when I hear about a technician who quits one repair shop to go work at another shop for less money. I know you have heard of this too, and you’ve probably asked yourself, “Can this be true? And Why?” The answer rests within the culture of the company. More specifically, the boss, manager, or a toxic work environment literally pushed the technician out the door.
      While money and benefits tend to attract people to a company, it won’t keep them there. When a technician begins to look over the fence for greener grass, that is usually a sign that something is wrong within the workplace. It also means that his or her heart is probably already gone. If the issue is not resolved, no amount of money will keep that technician for the long term. The heart is always the first to leave. The last thing that leaves is the technician’s toolbox.
      Shop owners: Focus more on employee retention than acquisition. This is not to say that you should not be constantly recruiting. You should. What it does means is that once you hire someone, your job isn’t over, that’s when it begins. Get to know your technicians. Build strong relationships. Have frequent one-on-ones. Engage in meaningful conversation. Find what truly motivates your technicians. You may be surprised that while money is a motivator, it’s usually not the prime motivator.
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