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Had a conversation today with a customer that I had repaired his duramax about two months ago. Says he was happy with the repair but I charged about $1500 too much. Says he called and got prices on parts after repair and says he can get parts for less. Try to explain that I have to mark parts up to make a profit. That is what your labor is for. Says other shops only charge what you can get parts for. How do you deal with customers like this? I personally know my labor and price markups are less than other shops. By the way repair was both head gaskets, heads rebuilt and three new injectors on a duramax diesel, A very expensive repair, but also advised him not to buy the truck originally.

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You won't win arguments. I find it best not to argue. Be sincere and let them know your are tops on quality and you value his service.

 

I haven't used this in my shop but my day job I have plenty of experience being a sales professional at the most exspensive in our category. People frequently complain but we have the highest loyalty in the industry.

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You can't win against these types of arguments. The perception of your shop should be honesty and quality above all else. Quality comes with a price. You have to warranty anything that goes wrong with a vehicle, that is built into the part price as you may have to rectify the work at a later date. If the customer can't understand why he/she is getting a superior job for the price they are paying they need to walk.

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Being fairly new to owning my shop, it's nice to hear others have had problems like this. I try not to take these complaints personally, but I pride myself in my quality and it cuts to the heart. Thank god for this forum and its members.

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Being fairly new to owning my shop, it's nice to hear others have had problems like this. I try not to take these complaints personally, but I pride myself in my quality and it cuts to the heart. Thank god for this forum and its members.

I was amazed when I found this place, it did wonders for my profit when I realized others hear the exact same comments and it didn't really have anything to do with me, my work or my shop. As a matter of fact less people have complained about price since I started charging more and correctly. I lost some customers that liked the old pricing but also left a good bit of stress behind with those customers lol. Can't please them all, best just let it go. Easier said than done lol.

 

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In the words of the great Ron White "you can't fix stupid." I had a customer yesterday tell me that I wasn't a good guy and he was going to tell all his friends about me because we failed his car for having horribly dry rotted tires. I take pride in doing state inspections as honestly and as thorough as I can. So it hurts on a personal level when someone tells me I'm a bad person. But I just have to tell myself that guy is stupid and I can fix his car but I can't fix him.

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Glance through some of my old post and stories and you'll find out that you're not the only one that deals with these situations. I find it better not to argue with these type of customers because you're not going to sway their opinion at all. Once they have made their mind up... it's over. All you can do is tell them that you appreciate their business and hope they continue to use your services. However, if you feel that my prices are to high then I'd try that other shop. 9 chances out of 10, they'll be back, mainly because they'll take the time to actually think about it and come to the realization that it's not the price as much as it is the quality of the service.

 

Funny, these type of people won't ask their dentist or doctor for a cheaper rate. go figure.

 

Service work will and always be judged by the consumer by the price and not by the service. People who want quality and expect it... don't price check.

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Glance through some of my old post and stories and you'll find out that you're not the only one that deals with these situations.  I find it better not to argue with these type of customers because you're not going to sway their opinion at all.  Once they have made their mind up... it's over.  All you can do is tell them that you appreciate their business and hope they continue to use your services.  However, if you feel that my prices are to high then I'd try that other shop.  9 chances out of 10, they'll be back, mainly because they'll take the time to actually think about it and come to the realization that it's not the price as much as it is the quality of the service.

 

Funny, these type of people won't ask their dentist or doctor for a cheaper rate.  go figure. 

 

Service work will and always be judged by the consumer by the price and not by the service.  People who want quality and expect it... don't price check. 

I recommend just buying the book! My books been passed around to the point the pages are worn thin!

 

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      The Technician Shortage Is Our Fault, And It's Time We Own It
      Nearly every day, I hear shop owners complain: "There's a technician shortage. We can't find qualified people. There's no one out there." If that's true, then who's to blame?
      The industry? The schools? The government? I don't know how you feel, but who promised us an endless supply of qualified technicians?
      Another common complaint is that young people do not want to work in the trades. Well, if that were true, then why are other trades such as HVAC, electrical, and plumbing growing? What are they doing that the automotive industry is not? 
      Here's the reality we need to face: We do have a problem, but we shouldn't look for someone or any entity to rescue us. Not the government. Not the trade schools. Not the recruiting companies. No one owes us a workforce. If we want great people in our industry, it's up to us. At some point, we need to own up to the truth: Building a pipeline of qualified technicians is our responsibility.
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      Let's take a look at flat-rate pay. True flat rate, which pays a technician only for the hours they produce, is a controversial pay plan that emphasizes high production levels and creates a competitive work environment that, if not properly controlled, can lead to increased mistakes and a decline in morale and team spirit. Additionally, the stress and physical demands placed on technicians as they age are not favorable to long-term employee retention. What do we do with technicians as they grow older into their fifties and begin to slow down? 
      I have heard all the arguments and pros and cons of flat-rate pay, and I am not going to judge any pay plan. Let the facts speak for themselves. True flat rate has changed in most areas around the country and has evolved into a pay plan that gives technicians some pay guarantee.
      Many shop owners have learned that team morale, along with the opportunity to earn income, is important to technicians and to the company's long-term success. But let me ask you: how many technicians have left or been pushed out over the years because of the old flat-rate pay system?
      Another issue is the workplace environment. I remember being grateful to be hired as a young technician at a local repair shop. While very thankful, the work environment was not ideal. The shop owner kept the bay doors open year-round (I am from New York) unless it rained or snowed. He felt that if the bay doors were closed, customers might think we were closed for business. We had no heat and no hot water. Many of the jobs were done outside, year-round,  in all types of weather. The starting pay was minimum wage, with no benefits, sick days, or vacation pay. 
      Now, again, I need to point out that I was truly grateful for the opportunity this shop owner gave me. I learned a lot working there, and the experience was pivotal in my career. But looking back, I wonder how many people were discouraged by these working conditions?
      While the physical demands of the repair workplace are daunting, perhaps even more critical is the culture. Too many of my generation shop owners preached the mindset of "my way or the highway." We were the business owners, after all. We started our companies, took all the risks, and provided jobs. Why shouldn't we be the ones to set the ground rules our way?   
      Many of us found over the years that the "my way or the highway" mentality was a sure way to isolate employees and make them more likely to look over the fence for greener grass. In other words, it led many technicians to seek employment elsewhere, where they felt they could be appreciated and recognized for their hard work. The issue, however, was that there wasn't much green grass around. Disappointment after disappointment, bouncing from repair to repair shop, eventually led to despair. So, I ask you: were workplace conditions a contributing factor in today's technician shortage?
      Another factor that we are all well aware of is the complexity of the modern automobile. When I started, the work was mostly physical, and you were required to master essentially three vehicle models: General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. Let's fast-forward to today. The evolution of automotive technology, along with the extensive training and tools required, has outpaced the typical technician's pay compensation, with no clear career path. Again, leading to frustration and insecurity about the future.
      Here is the bottom line: people don't leave their job; they leave their experience. We must do a better job. 
      The News Isn't all Bad; Your Next Steps to Fix the Technician Shortage
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      First, shop owners must become better leaders and understand that their ultimate success is directly dependent on the people they assemble around them. Any shop owner who mistakenly believes they can build an empire solely on their abilities is destined for serious disappointment. Business owners who think like this will eventually plateau. Without the collective contributions from a team of qualified people, your business will stall; it will not continue to grow.
      Create a workplace that attracts top talent: a clean, professional, well-equipped facility designed to support productivity, teamwork, and a career, not just a job. Build a great reputation in your community by getting involved locally. Become the auto repair shop that people take notice of as "the" place to work.
      Next, shop owners must become more financially knowledgeable. Knowing your numbers and what you need to achieve for a strong bottom-line profit is essential to paying technicians the money they need and deserve. Profit will also allow you to compete with other trade industries by providing a benefits package that has real take-home value and security.
      When it comes to culture, this is where the rubber hits the road. People crave recognition, praise, and a sense of purpose. Despite what you hear, people are not just money-motivated. Once people feel secure in their financial situation, retaining and motivating technicians can only be achieved by connecting with them on an emotional level. You cannot show enough appreciation. Give out praise for a job well done as if your business depended on it, because it does.
      As technicians age, we need to have a place for them. Expecting a 58-year-old to perform like a 35-year-old is unrealistic. We need to be more focused on career pathing. Provide training, skill development, and coaching to develop leaders and mentors within our older workforce. While their bodies may have slowed, the knowledge they have gained is priceless. 
      Our future is dependent on young people entering our industry. We need to give more young people opportunities. Every shop owner across the country should consider hiring an apprentice, then build an apprentice training plan and career path for them. If every shop did this, we could solve the technician shortage within five years. Get involved with the trade schools and high schools in your area. Look into the NAPA Apprenticeship Program. Don't sit on your hands with this one. Do it today.
      Lastly, don't get left behind. Commit to ongoing training for all your employees. Keep up to date with tools and equipment tailored to your business model. Don't try to be all things to all people and all vehicles. Identify your core profile customer and the vehicles they drive, and become an expert on those vehicles and the services you offer.
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