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Keith Perkins, L1 Automotive Diagnostics and Program, L1 Automotive Training, Listen to Keith’s previous episode HERE. This is Isaac Rodell's first appearance on Remarkable Results Radio. Find Isaac on Facebook "Isaac Rodiesel" Talking Points:

  • The struggle to improve the transfer of technical knowledge is the same people show up to training every seminar. Yet there are a few new faces but not enough to make a larger impact on the need and value of training.
  • How do we connect with people who do not seek out training on their own
  • Paying for training, room, board, and time off needs to be the standard in the industry  
  • When Issac owned his shop, he made the same mistake that so many shop owners today are making and not supporting 100% of his technician's training requirements (registration, room, board, and making their pay whole)
  • Only shop owners who attend training can see the value. Once they attend, they are all over it and turn their training commitment into a pillar of their company
  • Training pays it does not cost
  • There are many deals available for equipment for pennies on the dollar from shops that are liquidating. This a sign of the times when shop owners hesitate to become a business person
  • The first hybrid in the US was Honda Insight in 1999
  • Many of our young trainers have never set a carburetor  
  • Job security to work on ICE (Internal Combustion Engines) for many, many years to come as the age of the car grows by about 6 months per year and we currently are at 12.9 yrs
  • Buy a used 2005-2009 Toyota Prius to work on, to use as a training vehicle, and to wrap with the wording ‘We Service Hybrids.’
  • There is a worst-case scenario from Toyota about placing the keys about 20’ from the car when doing an oil change.
  • Verify the car is off when doing an oil change on the IC Engine
  • Issac and Keith are in the Mobile Diag. The dynamic of the job is changing because many shops are tooling up, and there is more competition than ever
  • Big pivot to remote programming
  • Issac encourages the young generation to go to training and will sponsor someone each year to go to ASTE
  • If senior members of a shop avoid going to training, invest in your young people.
  • 20% of technicians are 55 -64 average age from a survey. Astonishing number
  • In high school, 90% of men worked on their cars back in the day when there was shop class
  • Today very few high schools have shop classes and must send their students to a co-op center
  • Reference Bob Cooper Episodes with consumer panel  HERE
  • Kieth and Issac are not fans of Flat Rate.
  • When a technician returns from training within 2 weeks, be sure he/she teaches a short class of the training they had.
  • Practice what you learn and teach what you learn
  • When you teach, you learn
  • Fight the 30-day forgetting curve
  • Crispy Cream Waffle Video HERE
  • Issac has been making laptops for OE programming since 2014


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      I recently spoke with a friend of mine who owns a large general repair shop in the Midwest. His father founded the business in 1975. He was telling me that although he’s busy, he’s also very frustrated. When I probed him more about his frustrations, he said that it’s hard to find qualified technicians. My friend employs four technicians and is looking to hire two more. I then asked him, “How long does a technician last working for you.” He looked puzzled and replied, “I never really thought about that, but I can tell that except for one tech, most technicians don’t last working for me longer than a few years.”
      Judging from personal experience as a shop owner and from what I know about the auto repair industry, I can tell you that other than a few exceptions, the turnover rate for technicians in our industry is too high. This makes me think, do we have a technician shortage or a retention problem? Have we done the best we can over the decades to provide great pay plans, benefits packages, great work environments, and the right culture to ensure that the techs we have stay with us?
      Finding and hiring qualified automotive technicians is not a new phenomenon. This problem has been around for as long as I can remember. While we do need to attract people to our industry and provide the necessary training and mentorship, we also need to focus on retention. Having a revolving door and needing to hire techs every few years or so costs your company money. Big money! And that revolving door may be a sign of an even bigger issue: poor leadership, and poor employee management skills.
      Here’s one more thing to consider, for the most part, technicians don’t leave one job to start a new career, they leave one shop as a technician to become a technician at another shop. The reasons why they leave can be debated, but there is one fact that we cannot deny, people don’t quit the company they work for, they usually leave because of the boss or manager they work for.
      Put yourselves in the shoes of your employees. Do you have a workplace that communicates, “We appreciate you and want you to stay!”
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