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Donny Seyfer the executive officer of NASTF (National Automotive Service Task Force) and Partner in Seyfer Automotive in Wheatridge, CO. Listen to Donny’s previous episodes HERE.

Jeremy O’Neal President and lead sales trainer for Advisorfix, began his career as a Service Adviser and moved into Service Management at the dealership level for VW, Audi, and Porsche. He consistently placed in the top 3% of Service Advisors across the nation.

With a passion for helping others, Jeremy started coaching Service Advisers in 2007. Jeremy also owns an independent auto repair shop Freedom Auto Repair in Hesperia, CA. Previous episodes HERE. Link to Advisorfix HERE.

Danny Sanchez is owner and founder, of Auto-shop Solutions and grew up spending countless hours working around his dad’s auto repair shop in California, eventually taking over and running the business himself. Auto-shop Solutions started in 1998 when Danny founded Auto Web Solutions.

The Internet was starting to take off, and Danny took great interest in the powerful marketing benefits it could provide. As a successful shop owner himself, Danny used Auto Web Solutions to consult with other repair shops on their business practices and web presence.

In 2005, when Google launched Ad Words and changed its search engine to favor local businesses, Danny saw a huge opportunity for the automotive industry to draw more clients from the Internet. With just a handful of clients and a few websites, Danny built the foundation of his company – quality, affordable, automotive websites and Internet marketing solutions, designed exclusively for the auto industry. Check Danny’s previous episodes HERE.

Sara Fraser is a millennial who has a love for life, travel, and connecting with other humans! She has over 15 years of retail management experience, the last 6 of them as an office manager for a used car sales and service center. To bring her customer service, marketing, and business knowledge to the automotive industry she has recently joined the team at Haas Performance Consulting.

Sara loves helping others grow and succeed and is excited to share her expertise on management and social media, her views on how and why the younger generations think and act, and how to work and manage a business within a multi-generational workforce. When she isn’t working Sara spends her time traveling, attending theatrical productions, music festivals, concerts, advocating for human and animal rights, celebrating life in general and connecting with other people from all over the world. Look for Sara’s previous episodes HERE.

Jim Silverman is the Director of National Accounts for ATI Automotive Training Institute. Listen to Jim's previous episodes HERE.

 

Key Talking Points:

  • Overall CommentsNot what they earn but what they keep
  • Build an invisible paycheck for each team member. Let them see the total cost to the company
  • Service advisors need to have a comp plan to reward their success
  • The company needs to have a strong profit in order to make this work
  • Fear is false evidence appearing real
  • Incentive pay ideasCompensation plans must conform to state and federal labor guidelines
  • Training
  • ASE
  • Comebacks
  • Complete inspections
  • Bonus rates can be based on the number of hours they can bill
  • To millennials, the invisible paycheck is an expectation. So important to create one
  • Link to Town Hall Academy- Paying Your Technicians $100K per Year
  • Sara FraserThe work needs to be there to increase pay
  • Are we selling all available hours?
  • Technicians and service advisors must be on the same page for similar rewards as they work together to sell the labor inventory
  • Danny SanchezActive marketing is necessary to bring in new clients
  • You lose 3% of your clients each year. They move. They Die.
  • Referrals should be your #1 tactic to grow new customers
  • Build the opportunity to thrive in so your team can be big earners
  • Selling 40 hours per week should not be your goal. It should be more
  • 40 hours per person cover your base costs
  • Less than 3% of the pool of technicians coming into the industry. A very small number
  • Emotional maturity is lower. 18 is the new 16
  • Learn how to split income from base income and opportunistic income
  • Donny SeyferHaving a 30-year career at one place is not going to be the norm
  • NASTF - The Road to Great Technicians
  • We raise our technicians with a wide but narrow scope
  • We don’t hire our future techs as interns. We must change that
  •  42 % of students that get through the program do not make it past two years in their initial jobs. We don’t do a good job of integrating them into our industryThey push a broom or work on the lube rack for too long
  • Young people in our industry want to be involved in something that matters
  • Donny says there isn’t a technician shortage. There are too many bays from marginal shops.
  • You need to run a better business. Become a business person. Stop being a tech
  • We need to look at 5th grade to discover our tactile learners
  • A great mentor would be the person who is the latest who’s been through the program. When you teach you learn  
  • Jeremy O’Neal$48.08 per hour to earn $100K
  • It gets increasingly hard to hire against larger companies. We are losing the top talent to the bigger companies who can provide a stronger benefit plan
  • Quote from Matt Fanslow: “We expect our technicians to be smart enough to fix today’s cars but be dumb enough to accept our pay plan.”
  • Willing to charge a fair price for the business
  • Your labor force is tough to duplicate and unique to your shop
  • Based on your profit targets you can calculate what your labor rate needs to be
  • It doesn’t matter what your competition charge
  • Actual production is key
  •  He is tracking Average Time of Repairs
  • Labor guides are just a guide 
  • Pay PlansTop producers will do full inspections and document them
  • Fix the car right the first time
  • Jim SilvermanYour culture is why people come to work for you and why they stay with you
  • You provide everything your people need to have a fruitful life at work and at homeIt says I want you here
  • A good mix for parts to labor is 50/50
  • ASCCA has a program in San Diego for an independent track in post-secondary at Cuyamaca College in El Cajon, CA. See this episode: https://remarkableresults.biz/remarkable-results-radio-podcast/e364/
  • Train on doing complete inspections. You’ve got to be consistent in what constitutes a quality complete inspection

 

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  • Thanks to Donny Seyfer, Jeremy O'Neal, Noah Frank, Danny Sanchez, and Sara Fraser for their contribution to the aftermarket’s premier podcast.
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      The Technician Shortage Is Our Fault, And It's Time We Own It
      Nearly every day, I hear shop owners complain: "There's a technician shortage. We can't find qualified people. There's no one out there." If that's true, then who's to blame?
      The industry? The schools? The government? I don't know how you feel, but who promised us an endless supply of qualified technicians?
      Another common complaint is that young people do not want to work in the trades. Well, if that were true, then why are other trades such as HVAC, electrical, and plumbing growing? What are they doing that the automotive industry is not? 
      Here's the reality we need to face: We do have a problem, but we shouldn't look for someone or any entity to rescue us. Not the government. Not the trade schools. Not the recruiting companies. No one owes us a workforce. If we want great people in our industry, it's up to us. At some point, we need to own up to the truth: Building a pipeline of qualified technicians is our responsibility.
      In this blog article, I will break down the key reasons we are in this situation today and what we, as an industry, can do to solve the technician shortage. Are you ready to look in the mirror?
      Have We Pushed Technicians Away?
      Let's take a look at flat-rate pay. True flat rate, which pays a technician only for the hours they produce, is a controversial pay plan that emphasizes high production levels and creates a competitive work environment that, if not properly controlled, can lead to increased mistakes and a decline in morale and team spirit. Additionally, the stress and physical demands placed on technicians as they age are not favorable to long-term employee retention. What do we do with technicians as they grow older into their fifties and begin to slow down? 
      I have heard all the arguments and pros and cons of flat-rate pay, and I am not going to judge any pay plan. Let the facts speak for themselves. True flat rate has changed in most areas around the country and has evolved into a pay plan that gives technicians some pay guarantee.
      Many shop owners have learned that team morale, along with the opportunity to earn income, is important to technicians and to the company's long-term success. But let me ask you: how many technicians have left or been pushed out over the years because of the old flat-rate pay system?
      Another issue is the workplace environment. I remember being grateful to be hired as a young technician at a local repair shop. While very thankful, the work environment was not ideal. The shop owner kept the bay doors open year-round (I am from New York) unless it rained or snowed. He felt that if the bay doors were closed, customers might think we were closed for business. We had no heat and no hot water. Many of the jobs were done outside, year-round,  in all types of weather. The starting pay was minimum wage, with no benefits, sick days, or vacation pay. 
      Now, again, I need to point out that I was truly grateful for the opportunity this shop owner gave me. I learned a lot working there, and the experience was pivotal in my career. But looking back, I wonder how many people were discouraged by these working conditions?
      While the physical demands of the repair workplace are daunting, perhaps even more critical is the culture. Too many of my generation shop owners preached the mindset of "my way or the highway." We were the business owners, after all. We started our companies, took all the risks, and provided jobs. Why shouldn't we be the ones to set the ground rules our way?   
      Many of us found over the years that the "my way or the highway" mentality was a sure way to isolate employees and make them more likely to look over the fence for greener grass. In other words, it led many technicians to seek employment elsewhere, where they felt they could be appreciated and recognized for their hard work. The issue, however, was that there wasn't much green grass around. Disappointment after disappointment, bouncing from repair to repair shop, eventually led to despair. So, I ask you: were workplace conditions a contributing factor in today's technician shortage?
      Another factor that we are all well aware of is the complexity of the modern automobile. When I started, the work was mostly physical, and you were required to master essentially three vehicle models: General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. Let's fast-forward to today. The evolution of automotive technology, along with the extensive training and tools required, has outpaced the typical technician's pay compensation, with no clear career path. Again, leading to frustration and insecurity about the future.
      Here is the bottom line: people don't leave their job; they leave their experience. We must do a better job. 
      The News Isn't all Bad; Your Next Steps to Fix the Technician Shortage
      To fix the technician shortage, it will take a combined effort from everyone in the automotive industry, particularly automotive shop owners. Shop owners are in the perfect position to make the greatest impact, not only on their businesses but also on the future automotive workforce.
      First, shop owners must become better leaders and understand that their ultimate success is directly dependent on the people they assemble around them. Any shop owner who mistakenly believes they can build an empire solely on their abilities is destined for serious disappointment. Business owners who think like this will eventually plateau. Without the collective contributions from a team of qualified people, your business will stall; it will not continue to grow.
      Create a workplace that attracts top talent: a clean, professional, well-equipped facility designed to support productivity, teamwork, and a career, not just a job. Build a great reputation in your community by getting involved locally. Become the auto repair shop that people take notice of as "the" place to work.
      Next, shop owners must become more financially knowledgeable. Knowing your numbers and what you need to achieve for a strong bottom-line profit is essential to paying technicians the money they need and deserve. Profit will also allow you to compete with other trade industries by providing a benefits package that has real take-home value and security.
      When it comes to culture, this is where the rubber hits the road. People crave recognition, praise, and a sense of purpose. Despite what you hear, people are not just money-motivated. Once people feel secure in their financial situation, retaining and motivating technicians can only be achieved by connecting with them on an emotional level. You cannot show enough appreciation. Give out praise for a job well done as if your business depended on it, because it does.
      As technicians age, we need to have a place for them. Expecting a 58-year-old to perform like a 35-year-old is unrealistic. We need to be more focused on career pathing. Provide training, skill development, and coaching to develop leaders and mentors within our older workforce. While their bodies may have slowed, the knowledge they have gained is priceless. 
      Our future is dependent on young people entering our industry. We need to give more young people opportunities. Every shop owner across the country should consider hiring an apprentice, then build an apprentice training plan and career path for them. If every shop did this, we could solve the technician shortage within five years. Get involved with the trade schools and high schools in your area. Look into the NAPA Apprenticeship Program. Don't sit on your hands with this one. Do it today.
      Lastly, don't get left behind. Commit to ongoing training for all your employees. Keep up to date with tools and equipment tailored to your business model. Don't try to be all things to all people and all vehicles. Identify your core profile customer and the vehicles they drive, and become an expert on those vehicles and the services you offer.
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