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Pete McNeil is a second-generation family-owned business that started out as a Volkswagen specialist. They quickly recognized their potential for all makes and models and expanded their service offerings. During this time, they joined the NAPA AutoCare program, expanded their footprint in the Salt Lake valley and became a pillar in the automotive repair industry.

In 2018 alone, McNeil’s expanded their Sandy location to 16 bays to help accommodate their growing business, training center and partnership with local schools for the continued growth of their apprenticeship program. During this time McNeil’s also took advantage of the Interior ProImage program and remodeled their entire showroom! This included new counters for their 4 Service Advisors, new epoxy flooring, signage, and upgraded comfortable furniture and fixtures! This is truly a place where their customers can relax while having their vehicle repaired.

In addition, Pete opened a 2nd location in Riverton, Utah in May of 2019. Pete is very involved in the community both locally and abroad He is active in the local Church Youth Conference, Angel Hands, which assists people with disabilities.

Very active in youth soccer with contributions and cars washed to raise money for Sparta-United. He has donated time and resources to “Sandy Pride” which helps residents clean up and beautify the city.

Jake Sorensen is the 2019 NAPA ASE Technician of the Year and 2019 Ratchet + Wrench All Star technician of the year. He is an ASE Master technician with L1,2 and 3 advanced level certifications. He is the shop manager and diagnostic technician at McNeil’s Auto Care in Sandy, UT where he helped develop an apprenticeship program that is registered with the U.S. Department of Labor. This program has graduated several high performing automotive technicians and was used by NAPA Auto Care as a template for their automotive apprenticeship program. Jake also developed the curriculum for an automotive course that he teaches at an adult education high school.

Alexia Murphy is Program Specialist, Department of Workforce Services, State of Utah

Key Talking Points:

  • Sustainability- Without a program, there “will not” be enough technicians for the independents to be able to compete, or grow in this industry.
  • By 2026 we are going to need 46,000 additional technicians (Bureau of Labor Statistics)
  • Less coming into the trade
  • You cannot afford to take your ‘lead’ technicians to teach a new member of the team
  • You need a roadmap and an officially approved apprentice program to support a mentor, training and a career path
  • (Jake Sorensen) Benefits from apprenticeship program Common questions:
  • How much will it cost me?
  • Answer: How much are you losing by not having enough technicians? That number far exceeds the cost of training. Also, the program is not as expensive as most believe. On average, an apprentice will start producing more revenue than the cost of their employment and training within three months!
  • What if I train and invest in someone, and they leave?
  • Answer: If you: choose the right candidate, offer free training, assist with tool purchases and treat them well through their apprenticeship, they will appreciate what you have provided and stay around for the long haul. McNeil’s still employs all three of the technicians that graduated from their program.
  • Maybe more importantly, what if you and every other shop owner sits back and does nothing?It is important to remember that if you lose an apprentice to another shop, that shop is no longer looking for a technician, which may free someone up for you.
  • Department of Labors throughout the country is willing to help for employer and apprentice by providing moniesStates vary. Meet with then and ask them questions and show them your program
  • Skilled trades are advertising to bring in young people into their industry through apprentice programs.
  • Not every candidate will work outA big problem is communication
  • Every other week you need a sit down to review and talk about the next two weeks.Discover if the training methods are working
  • If you find the right candidate, it will work
  • Apprentice vs 2-year collegeStudent loan debt
  • Tool investment
  • Not as much hands on as in shop
  • Schools let them know that when they enter the job market they can get top pay
  • Some schools do not have the latest equipment
  • Many counselors are naive about the industryWe must get involved and change the perception
  • Their supplier, NAPA, is providing incentives along the way. Toolbox, tool credit.
  • Incentives (rewards) for the apprentice to earn
  • Just because you are providing free training, they still have rent, car payments, food. They have a life. Create incentives along the way to keep them motivated and engaged while they are growing their skillsHelp shape their attitude for our trade
  • Departments of labor can help you find training
  • Need a technician. Start with an apprentice.
  • There is no silver bullet to growing technicians.There will be an investment.
  • We must get involved with our community and department of labor.
  • Share your success story
  • STARTFind a group to help you. Example NAPA has this programThere is also a program from the IGONC in North Carolina and many others.
  • Look at an apprentice program as a shop tool, a recipe for success
  • Contact (reach out) to your Department of Labor
  • Look for your candidate by advertising.Jake’s inbox was flooded with applicants.
  • Look for key indicators for holding a job even if not paid shadowing type of experience
  • Their apprentice program has spiked ASE certifications among their technicians
  • The program is broken into 9 stages over two years.  Requirements along the way
  • Training classes, virtual, leader-led
  • Demonstrations from equipment people
  • Online video’s
  • Be sure you have an LMS (learning management system) to help track the progress
  • There is a competency section
  • They must their mentor that they learned and can do the tasks that they learned
  • The quality of work in the shop improved because they are a teaching center
  • An apprentice is like a doctors residency to earn certification  
  • Jake Sorensen: We all need to buy into certifications.
  • ASE is a very valuable resource for our industry to separate the professionals from the DIY’ers. You cannot become an electrician or a plumber just because you helped a friend or family member on a home project. Yet we accept that exact same experience in place of certification in our industry all the time. Apprenticeships help force up and coming technicians to become certified.I hear people all the time say “I’ve known plenty of ASE Master Techs that don’t know what they are doing and plenty of really good mechanics that just can’t pass a test,” Well I can tell you I have seen it the other way a whole lot more. I know we like to compare ourselves to the medical profession quite a bit. Would you go to a doctor or see a Nurse that was not certified just because they couldn’t pass a test? Not a chance, so why are we so willing to accept that excuse from our professionals? 
  • Pete has been tracking his apprentice program for four years and has numbers that show a growth in sales from the training and team approach to share work and build the next generation.
  • Other episodes on Apprentice ProgramsRR 335 Build Your Own Apprentice Program - Dwayne Myers
  • RR 482 IGONC Apprentice Program. Three Students Speak.
  • FTR 064 - Mike Davidson. Find Your Apprentices
  • RR 383 - AAPEXedu 2018 - Road to Great Technicians - Roundtable
  • THA 087 - Automotive Career’s Start in High School and in the Home
  • FTR 007 - Matt Fanslow - Integrate the Malleable Young Apprentice Into Your Shop
  • RR 353 - Kyle Holt - S/P2 - Helping Entry Level Technicians Enter and Stay in the Industry

Resources:

  • A special thanks to Pete McNeil, Jake Sorensen, and Alexia Murphy for their contribution to the aftermarket.
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      The Technician Shortage Is Our Fault, And It's Time We Own It
      Nearly every day, I hear shop owners complain: "There's a technician shortage. We can't find qualified people. There's no one out there." If that's true, then who's to blame?
      The industry? The schools? The government? I don't know how you feel, but who promised us an endless supply of qualified technicians?
      Another common complaint is that young people do not want to work in the trades. Well, if that were true, then why are other trades such as HVAC, electrical, and plumbing growing? What are they doing that the automotive industry is not? 
      Here's the reality we need to face: We do have a problem, but we shouldn't look for someone or any entity to rescue us. Not the government. Not the trade schools. Not the recruiting companies. No one owes us a workforce. If we want great people in our industry, it's up to us. At some point, we need to own up to the truth: Building a pipeline of qualified technicians is our responsibility.
      In this blog article, I will break down the key reasons we are in this situation today and what we, as an industry, can do to solve the technician shortage. Are you ready to look in the mirror?
      Have We Pushed Technicians Away?
      Let's take a look at flat-rate pay. True flat rate, which pays a technician only for the hours they produce, is a controversial pay plan that emphasizes high production levels and creates a competitive work environment that, if not properly controlled, can lead to increased mistakes and a decline in morale and team spirit. Additionally, the stress and physical demands placed on technicians as they age are not favorable to long-term employee retention. What do we do with technicians as they grow older into their fifties and begin to slow down? 
      I have heard all the arguments and pros and cons of flat-rate pay, and I am not going to judge any pay plan. Let the facts speak for themselves. True flat rate has changed in most areas around the country and has evolved into a pay plan that gives technicians some pay guarantee.
      Many shop owners have learned that team morale, along with the opportunity to earn income, is important to technicians and to the company's long-term success. But let me ask you: how many technicians have left or been pushed out over the years because of the old flat-rate pay system?
      Another issue is the workplace environment. I remember being grateful to be hired as a young technician at a local repair shop. While very thankful, the work environment was not ideal. The shop owner kept the bay doors open year-round (I am from New York) unless it rained or snowed. He felt that if the bay doors were closed, customers might think we were closed for business. We had no heat and no hot water. Many of the jobs were done outside, year-round,  in all types of weather. The starting pay was minimum wage, with no benefits, sick days, or vacation pay. 
      Now, again, I need to point out that I was truly grateful for the opportunity this shop owner gave me. I learned a lot working there, and the experience was pivotal in my career. But looking back, I wonder how many people were discouraged by these working conditions?
      While the physical demands of the repair workplace are daunting, perhaps even more critical is the culture. Too many of my generation shop owners preached the mindset of "my way or the highway." We were the business owners, after all. We started our companies, took all the risks, and provided jobs. Why shouldn't we be the ones to set the ground rules our way?   
      Many of us found over the years that the "my way or the highway" mentality was a sure way to isolate employees and make them more likely to look over the fence for greener grass. In other words, it led many technicians to seek employment elsewhere, where they felt they could be appreciated and recognized for their hard work. The issue, however, was that there wasn't much green grass around. Disappointment after disappointment, bouncing from repair to repair shop, eventually led to despair. So, I ask you: were workplace conditions a contributing factor in today's technician shortage?
      Another factor that we are all well aware of is the complexity of the modern automobile. When I started, the work was mostly physical, and you were required to master essentially three vehicle models: General Motors, Ford, and Chrysler. Let's fast-forward to today. The evolution of automotive technology, along with the extensive training and tools required, has outpaced the typical technician's pay compensation, with no clear career path. Again, leading to frustration and insecurity about the future.
      Here is the bottom line: people don't leave their job; they leave their experience. We must do a better job. 
      The News Isn't all Bad; Your Next Steps to Fix the Technician Shortage
      To fix the technician shortage, it will take a combined effort from everyone in the automotive industry, particularly automotive shop owners. Shop owners are in the perfect position to make the greatest impact, not only on their businesses but also on the future automotive workforce.
      First, shop owners must become better leaders and understand that their ultimate success is directly dependent on the people they assemble around them. Any shop owner who mistakenly believes they can build an empire solely on their abilities is destined for serious disappointment. Business owners who think like this will eventually plateau. Without the collective contributions from a team of qualified people, your business will stall; it will not continue to grow.
      Create a workplace that attracts top talent: a clean, professional, well-equipped facility designed to support productivity, teamwork, and a career, not just a job. Build a great reputation in your community by getting involved locally. Become the auto repair shop that people take notice of as "the" place to work.
      Next, shop owners must become more financially knowledgeable. Knowing your numbers and what you need to achieve for a strong bottom-line profit is essential to paying technicians the money they need and deserve. Profit will also allow you to compete with other trade industries by providing a benefits package that has real take-home value and security.
      When it comes to culture, this is where the rubber hits the road. People crave recognition, praise, and a sense of purpose. Despite what you hear, people are not just money-motivated. Once people feel secure in their financial situation, retaining and motivating technicians can only be achieved by connecting with them on an emotional level. You cannot show enough appreciation. Give out praise for a job well done as if your business depended on it, because it does.
      As technicians age, we need to have a place for them. Expecting a 58-year-old to perform like a 35-year-old is unrealistic. We need to be more focused on career pathing. Provide training, skill development, and coaching to develop leaders and mentors within our older workforce. While their bodies may have slowed, the knowledge they have gained is priceless. 
      Our future is dependent on young people entering our industry. We need to give more young people opportunities. Every shop owner across the country should consider hiring an apprentice, then build an apprentice training plan and career path for them. If every shop did this, we could solve the technician shortage within five years. Get involved with the trade schools and high schools in your area. Look into the NAPA Apprenticeship Program. Don't sit on your hands with this one. Do it today.
      Lastly, don't get left behind. Commit to ongoing training for all your employees. Keep up to date with tools and equipment tailored to your business model. Don't try to be all things to all people and all vehicles. Identify your core profile customer and the vehicles they drive, and become an expert on those vehicles and the services you offer.
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