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Just wondering if anyone on here has good experience with these units. We have manufacturer specific scan tools however we like to have a few general all purpose scanners available. We currently have the older Autel DS708 which is decent but rather slow. I also have a Launch GDS still in box brand new that I got for a pretty good price but I have yet to use it. One of my techs had experience using one and said in his words, "feels like a toy and crashes a lot." The new MaxiSys looks fast and capable. Anyone own one? Thoughts?

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I purchased the Autel Maxisys Pro earlier this year and have had nothing but problems with it. They finally agreed to take it back a month or so ago. Since then, they have given my tool dealer and his supplier the run around, now they will not return any of my phone calls or emails. If you are considering purchasing any Autel product, I would highly recommend not buying from them.



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what type of problems?

I'm copying and pasting this from something I previously wrote. Remember, the problems listed are just the ones I logged. And we pretty much stopped using the tool after some of these problems because we could not trust it. For the last several weeks, I have not been able to get in contact with them and they will not return my phone calls or emails.

 

03/18/2014 The Autel Maxisys Pro could not communicate with a 1998 Volvo S70 ECM

04/25/2014 The Autel Maxisys Pro could not communicate with another Volvo 70 series . In fact to this day it cannot connect to a 70 series Volvo ECM.

04/25/2014 The Autel Maxisys Pro got a function is not supported while trying to reset a oil reminder light on a Volvo S80. This is a very common message "function is not supported". Even thought the options are there. When you try to perform the test or activation, you just get the error "function is not supported".

04/26/2014 The Autel Maxisys Pro received this functionality is not available when trying to reset the transmission adaptives on a Volvo S80

04/30/2014 The Autel Maxisys Pro would not perform the VTC test on an Acura even though it was listed in the functionality.

These are just the issues that I actually did a data log on to submit to Autel to correct. These issues are all still listed as open on my scanner. I have exchanged numerous phone calls and emails with Jon-Erik Balagot in technical support about my issues with the Autel Maxisys Pro.

On April 28th, he wrote me the following.

Good Day,

They have notified the issue on this first issue. Regarding about the second issue. Only way to fix is to datalog so our engineer can find out why it failed to reset on the tool but light is off on the vehicle. Regarding about the DLC port. We had some issues with connection. Regarding about full bar or half bar of DLC. I apologize. I did not in touch with you on time.

--

Jon-Erik Balagot

Clearly admitting some issues on their end.

On April 30th he wrote

Good Day,

I apologize for the late reply. I have no expected time with the Volvo issue. I'm really sorry about this.

--

Jon-Erik Balagot

Really? No idea when it might be resolved.

On May 09, 2014 I received the following

Good Day,

Sorry for long wait.

Update will be out either of end of this month or next month. I am sorry it is taking long.

--

Jon-Erik Balagot

Again, Really? A month or two before I can communicate with a Volvo ECM.

After being patient for 6 months with no solutions and with more problems being experienced every day, on September 1st, 2014 I emailed the following.

Jon-Erik,

I cannot wait any longer. I have been very patient for months now. I need a scan tool that does what I need it to do now, so we can fix our customer’s cars now. I would like to return it for a full refund so I can buy a scanner that works. Is this something you can help me with?

Scott Folley

On 09/02/2014 I received the following reply

Good Day,

I apologize since we had this issue on Volvo and mentioned to you about how issue should be fix. Return of units will be handled by your seller. We do not control that. If you need further assistance, I can mentioned forward this issue to my supervisor.

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Jon-Erik Balagot

There were several more phone calls over the last month between Jon-Erik, my tool dealer, and myself. In my last conversation with Jon-Erik, he asked me what I wanted to do. I told him that the Autel Maxisys Pro had too many issue that they have been unable to correct, that I wanted to return it. He said that since I had these issues, and they could not correct them, that I could return the Autel Maxisys Pro. He told me that he would contact the tool dealer to arrange this.

This morning my tool dealer called me after a very heated and frustrating conversation with Jon-Eric. He informed me that Jon-Eric is in complete agreement with the fact that there are issues with this product that they cannot correct for me but that they are not willing to take it back as they first stated they would.

In fact my tool dealer was so frustrated with their position that he said he is going to return all the Autel products he has on his truck and will no longer sell any of their products.

From others around the web. If you go to the YouTube video posted above, you will find the following comments.

I call several times and days last week and they never answer the phone.

latest Bluetooth is 2.0? Are you kidding me?? And then saying sparred no expense....

AUTEL TECHNICAL SUPPORT IS VERY VERY POOR, AFTER I BOUGHT MY SCANNER I PHONED AUTEL FOR SOME HELP, AUTEL SAID THEY WOULD RING ME STRAIGHT BACK, I AM STILL WAITING, THAT WAS OVER A YEAR AGO, AUTEL PROMISE THE WORLD DELIVER NOTHING,I WOULD NOT EVEN RECOMMEND THERE SCANNER FOR DIY USE FACT!!
are you talking about these cheaters.They have launched maxisys pro with J2534 VCI device according to Autel it can flash any car and here in Qatar after buying this thing for $3000 one poor guy found that it don't support any JAPAN made cars.

 

These are pure cheaters.They came to market to cheat people nothing else.

Any by directional capabilities.. I bought the autel elite.. It's said it had by directional dint work on a 96 Buick a could not communicate with other modules on the car other as advertised

If you are considering the Autel Maxisys Pro. I would highly discourage you from purchasing this scanner also highly recommend staying away from all this companies products.

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^^^ This proves why you should buy from a reputable Distributor and not a Big Box chain.

 

We would have immediately Logged into TeamViewer into your Tool and figured out what the issues were. We help Customers like you everyday and never have feedback like this and we sell and support a bunch of Autel product along with every other OE Tool you can imagine.

I did purchase the tool from a very reputable dealer. I have been working with him for over 25 years. I'm not sure how anyone could help me via TeamViewer with a defect that Autel admits they cannot fix. What can he do when Autel will not even return his or my calls.

 

My problem is not with the dealer, it is with Autel. Autel has been completely unresponsive to all my data logs. They said their engineers could not resolve my issues and that they would allow the distributor to take the tool back. However, the distributor cannot take it back without an RMA number. The dealer, the distributor, and I have all been trying to get this from Autel. They have not responded to any of our calls or emails. Today I thought that I would try to contact the sales department. I was on hold for 15 minutes earlier today before I was disconnected. As I write this, I have been waiting on hold for 13 minutes for the sales department to answer the phone.

 

Before I bought the pro, I had the DS708. It was exchanged twice for defects in the few months I owned it. I bought the pro because my dealer agreed to credit me for the DS708. I just hit 15 minutes on hold and was disconnected. I guess there is a 15 minute time out. I don't know what Autel company you sell products for, but it does not sound like the one I have been dealing with since March of this year.

 

 

 

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My point Scott is we would have been assisting you and we would help you find out the issue. Please understand that with all our access to the OE's we could help you resolve this and Volvo's and Acura's are no issue.

 

 

I am curious as to how you would have more/better access to Autel than the OP or his tool distributor. If the OP is being truthful this is a black eye against Autel's customer service. I personally have a DS708 we use sparingly. I have never had an issue and was looking forward to potentially adding another spare scanner to the collection at some point.

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I am curious as to how you would have more/better access to Autel than the OP or his tool distributor. If the OP is being truthful this is a black eye against Autel's customer service. I personally have a DS708 we use sparingly. I have never had an issue and was looking forward to potentially adding another spare scanner to the collection at some point.

 

 

 

I am curious as to how you would have more/better access to Autel than the OP or his tool distributor. If the OP is being truthful this is a black eye against Autel's customer service. I personally have a DS708 we use sparingly. I have never had an issue and was looking forward to potentially adding another spare scanner to the collection at some point.

 

 

I am very curious as well. How can you fix a problem that Autel cannot. The issues I listed above are just the tip of the ice berg so to speak. These are just the issues I logged. I only listed the ones above that I could provide the logs for to back up my claims. I stopped logging after those as they were not even addressing them. There were many other issues with the scanner. It continually gives the message "This function is not supported" even though the function is listed on the menu. Sometimes it will even perform the function like resetting a service reminder, but will still give the message that the function is not supported. On one Volvo S80, it would not reset the reminder light through the normal menu. However, if you went into the DIM, you could then reset it. My lead tech is continually asking how can we trust what the tool is telling us or doing. We have the Volvo factory tools. We have the VST. We have VIDA. That is not the point. This tool is a piece of junk, Autel has told us they cannot fix the issues we are having and they said they would take the tool back. If they would actually take the tool back as they have told me they would, I would still respect them as a company. However, that is not the case. They now appear to be trying to avoid doing what they said they would.

 

Scott

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Why are you using the Autel Tool on a Volvo if you have Volvo Factory Tools? I am not sure what you were told about this Tool but I am guessing that it's capabilities were oversold to you. Our approach is to be a real partner with you with your Diagnostic Tool offering and to give you real world solutions, not a hey this Tool is all you will ever need.

 

The Autel Tool is very strong on a whole list of Makes, unfortunately for Volvo it is only ok. Remember you are dealing with a Software engineer at Autel that understands how to write code not how a system works on the car. This is a big deal and too many people just don't understand this. Our organization has more Tech Support personel that any Tool manufacturer, sounds crazy but it is the truth. I know the ends and outs of tech support for Autel, Bosch/OTC, Snap-On, etc... We have a combination of talent and enough industry resources that if we don't know the answer we know how to get it or figure it out.

 

To answer your question as how can you trust the Autel Tool... You can just not on a Volvo, Subaru, Suzuki as they are not a GM, Ford, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda, Nissan. Not sure who Sold you on the capability of this Tool on Volvo's but we could help you. To do real programming on Volvo you need 8G of Memory in one of our most powerful Laptops so that it runs fast enough that we can help you with remote support. You will never get there with the Autel and I am guessing since you are not using your Factory Volvo Tools you really need someones help and that is where we come in. Stop trying to use the utel on Volvo and use it for the other makes that I mentioned and the Flasher you have with it really won't be much help for you unless you are on a GM, Toyota, or FORD.

 

If you like I can give you a call and discuss your real world options as we can help 100% with Volvo and can give you plenty of satisfied Customers.

 

Shoot me your number and I will give you a call. I am sure we can help you.

 

Thanks

 

You sound very knowledgeable and like you provide excellent customer service. I appreciate your offer to help, and will keep you in mind if there is something I need in the future as we are moving into other makes and models. We have specialized in Volvo repair for the last 25 years and we have that covered. As I said, we have the VST and VIDA. We do software downloads almost daily. I decided to purchased the Pro after watching this Motor Age video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnXrvlqn-yM of Art Jacobson the president of Autel. He stated that the pro would have dealer level diagnostics for all makes and models. And he touted how great there support for the tool was. Since we were starting to move into servicing other makes and models, it sounded like the Pro would be a good tool to have.

 

When I first got the tool, I wanted to see what it was capable of. That was when I tried it on the 1998 70 series and could not communicate with the ECM. The VST is rather slow and VIDA is not the most user friendly, it crashes a lot, and it can take some time to connect to a vehicle. Especially the first vehicle of the day or after restarting the laptop because you have to log back in to Volvo central system. VIDA is also not the easiest thing to take out into the parking lot to hook up to a car. So in addition to a scanner for other makes and models, I liked the idea of how quickly the Pro would boot up and connect to a Volvo.

 

At this time the only help I could use is getting in touch with Autel. If you think you can help me with that, email me at [email protected] and I'll give you a call.

 

Scott

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FYI, Art Jacobson moved on from Autel in June of 2014 and now is with Honda R&D Americas, Inc.

 

Also with the right set-up (Computer & Hardware Interface) you shouldn't have many issues with Volvo. If you have an actual subscription to Volvo you are paying over $8K a year.

 

Like I said keep the Autel MS908P for all your other Makes and make sure the thing has been registered and updated. It is a good Tool, you are expecting a all in one OE-Level Tool to perform better than your current OE Volvo Tools and you admitted that one they are Slow and two Hard to Navigate.

 

The Volvo set-up I referred to in earlier post will be quicker and you will have less issues, but Volvo is simply Hard!

 

Good Luck to you Scott, let me know how I can help you.

 

OEScanTools

(682) 300-4613

 

Can you help me get in touch with anyone at Autel?

 

Scott

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I can try, not sure what I can do on that Scott... It is a shame that you feel you need to return this Tool!

 

I Would like to Log into your Tool and see what is going on. It could be as simple as going in and using Manual ID on the car. Remember just because Auto ID is on a Tool doesn't mean that the car's architecture is set-up to accept the Auto ID.

 

A prime example of this with a Factory Tech2 on a later Model GM like a 2007 Suburban if you Auto ID the car it will not Poll all the Modules and let you Read & Clear Codes from one screen. But when you Manually ID the vehicle you can Read & Clear ALL Codes from ALL Modules from one screen. Plus Guess what on the Autel Maxi-SYS it works the same way, it totally mimics how the Factory Tool works.

 

So if I can give one tid bit of information on how Autel Maxi-SYS Tools work, use it like how the Factory Tool works or flows. If you don't then it might not work how you think it should work which by the way is the single biggest issue going out there with Scan Tools. The OE has their way, the Scan Tool Company has theirs, and the Tech's have their way and guess what... Everyone is right. Problem is if you turn left when you need to turn right at any of these Levels then you will be sadly unsatisfied.

 

Thanks

 

OEScanTools

I left you a message and send a message via your contact form. I have a 1998 S70 here now if you want to see if you can get the Pro to communicate.

 

Scott

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Great luck with the Maxisys PRO. In my experience the machine operates great with BMW/Mercedes/VW.

 

The only thing I have noticed is that if I leave the shop around 6PM and the Tablet is fully charged I will take it off the charger so I don't burn the battery out, but when I open up in the Morning at 7AM it is almost always has a dead battery which I find odd since I purchased it 6 months ago.

 

Anyone else experience this?

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Scott, we have the same Autel scanner and see the exact same problems with Volvos. Apart from the VIDA, I do not know of a good aftermarket Volvo tool. Actually, I think we pull out the G-Scan unit now when we need to do some Volvo work?

 

With that said, the Autel is an absolutely rocking tool for the price. I mean, can you really complain about it when the thing costs what it does??

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Great luck with the Maxisys PRO. In my experience the machine operates great with BMW/Mercedes/VW.

 

The only thing I have noticed is that if I leave the shop around 6PM and the Tablet is fully charged I will take it off the charger so I don't burn the battery out, but when I open up in the Morning at 7AM it is almost always has a dead battery which I find odd since I purchased it 6 months ago.

 

Anyone else experience this?

Sounds like something funky is going on with your Autel over night. It should not lose any charge when not in use, or very little. I think there is a section under settings which shows where all the battery is getting used. Take a look there.

 

In any case, you can leave a lithium ion battery on the charger all night with no issues. This is old advice for last gen batteries. See here...

 

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/do_and_dont_battery_table

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I like the snapon solus, works on nearly everything with very little to no glitches. I picked up one for $1200 used. I updated I during a sale to he newest version for $700, added euro for another $800 later. It scans everything I have needed. I know you said it's out of yor budget but the autel just seems like a buggy mess. Sure it's probably a great bang for the buck, but if it's limited and unreliable who wants that headache for a primary scanner?

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We have the Snap On Solus Ultra here as well with the European upgrade. It's a great scan tool for most vehicles, but I have to admit that the euro coverage is actually pretty terrible for this tool. In hindsight, I don't think I would have purchased it knowing how many holes there are in it for euro vehicles.

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I agree. I have OE tools but I also have a Snap on Verus Pro. I like the tool but since we only work on Euros its very limited for us. We use it mainly for scoping and some PID views. I had the old Autel DS708 which was decent for the price. I'm sure the new Autel retain much of the functions. I've heard from a few shop owners that the Euro coverage on the Autel is pretty good. I guess its also expectations are lower because of the price tag. Remember there is no way you can truly say you are a dealer alternative without having the proper tools. A multi scan tool is not going to cut the mustard. You need the OE tools.

 

There is a vendor on here that sells some OE tools, I would talk to him if you guys really wanted a make specific scanner.

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I have a DS708 and will admit that there are functions built into the scanner that sometimes wont work or communicate but for $1300 i paid for it, it still does a ton of other stuff that you would have to spend thousands more for a snap on.

 

ATTN Autel Owners. My advance auto parts offers the annual updates for less than directly off the autel website. Check your local vendors to see how much updates are through them.

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Update on my experience with Autel. After many months of unreturned calls and emails, I finally decided to file a law suit against them. I sent them an email letting them know my plans, and within a few hours a rep was on the phone with me setting up the return process. I sent it back and they gave me a full credit.

 

Scott

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I have been a Ford Master Technician for 30 years and used about every brand diagnostic scanner Autel MaxiSys Elite over the years and this one is hands down the best and most universal scanner I have used to date! Never once have I had an issue with the Blue Tooth connection between the scanner and the VCM unlike what we use at Ford. Programs keys perfectly, bi-directional controls work flawless and is very fast processing of live data....WAY faster than Snap On Versus and the software especially for Ford is almost identical to Fords software with the IDS we use at the dealership...I actually prefer my Autel over the IDS now.

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And so I kind of wanted to follow up on what actually happened,, like the run up to the surgery, if you can maybe just go back and tell us, like, like you and I drove to Tulsa, we got into the Airbnb and kind of just take it from there a little bit, and we'll just work forward from there. Kimberly Cotton (00:05:35) - So,, two days after we made it to Tulsa, we had a follow up., basically they wanted to retest everything. So,, my brother and I both at the same time, went to the hospital and we did,, an EKG. We had blood tests., we did all kinds of different stuff., at that time, they gave me information that I was going to need for the surgery. Now, knowing that. I may not still be a match. Something else could have gone wrong between that appointment and the donation, which was a week away. So even though we are doing this and they're giving me all instructions for the surgery, it's still not a guarantee. And so we had to keep thinking about that., so we had the appointment pretty much all day, you know, met with, the nephrologist again and the, the kidney center., again, they're saying, you know, you can still back out. This is still your choice., we won't tell your brother any, you know, just, you know, something else happened, and not that you would have pulled out. Kimberly Cotton (00:06:44) - And it never even crossed my mind to not go through with the donation. I mean, it just. It is what it is. I was going to do it no matter what., so then after that Wednesday,, it was pretty much just a waiting game until we heard from my kidney advocate., the next Tuesday. So we did all the testing on that Wednesday. Then we had to wait until the next Monday and I had to have a Covid test., and then after that, it was again, you were just waiting. And then Tuesday afternoon., they finally called and said, okay, all the cross matches are still good. Everybody's healthy. Covid was negative., so we're good to go. So even though we thought we were good to go and the surgery was scheduled, it's never really a done deal till the final. Okay. Everybody's good to go. So then it was just another, you know, let's see. That was Tuesday. So the rest of Tuesday, all day Wednesday I had to not eat or drink anything, but I couldn't eat anything on that Wednesday it was an all liquid diet. Kimberly Cotton (00:07:54) - And then after midnight on that night, I couldn't have anything to eat or drink,, through the surgery. So I'd been fasting. I've been doing some, some of that, so I was comfortable with that. It was still hard., I was still, you know, I still wanted to eat, but I made it just fine., but I was getting very antsy. I just I wanted to get it done. I everything was good. I'm like, why do we have to wait? But that's when we had it scheduled for that Thursday. So it was just a waiting game at that point., so I tried to get out and walk a couple times a day just to get, you know, fresh air,, get my mind off of it. Which helped., and then my mom and dad showed up that Wednesday evening as well. So that helped me take my mind off of it, too. So they come over,. And stayed for another week and a half after that, just to take care of me and make sure I was doing okay, and basically to say, hey, you don't need to be doing that. Kimberly Cotton (00:08:58) - But so anyway,, everything's good to go. We wake up at 4:00 on Thursday morning. My brother and sister in law actually come pick us up. So we don't have too many vehicles at the hospital and we make it to the hospital. We get all checked in., and then they called me back first, and. That was it. That was like, okay. That was the point where I was like, okay, this is real. And for me, until something happens, it's not really real. When they called me back, my brother gave me the biggest hug and said, I want to thank you so much for doing this for me. So he gave me the big hug. It was hard for him to let go, but he let go and they took me back to my room. And so. Chris Cotton (00:09:50) - So I'm going to I'm going to stop you for just a second right there. So if, if anybody out there is listening, never experience this., I knew where we were going and I'd seen the room before. Chris Cotton (00:10:03) - I really didn't know kind of my part in all this, which is not super important other than just support. But,, you know, in hindsight that day. No, I don't think they prepared us for that day or they didn't prepare me., because we walk in there and they're doing, I think, 96 surgeries that same day, everything from kidney transplants to heart transplants to there was a lady there that was there to get her,, leg amputated from diabetes,, pacemakers, everything. And all this is happening at once. Every person individually has their own team the, the, the donor, the recipient. And it was really, really something. It was interesting to watch. And again, like Kimberly said, we got there, you know, 430 in the morning and they were done with all the surgeries. By 530 that afternoon. They had like everybody off to recovery. The, the,, the rooms were empty, but basically we got like a little cubicle for the family to sit in, and they called us every hour,, to update us, the nurse did to let us know that we're okay and or that Kimberly's okay, not us. Chris Cotton (00:11:13) - Okay? We're just fine and kind of keep us apprised of all the situations that's going. So that's kind of what I was doing during the day sitting, waiting, managing family and things like that. So,, so, okay, so you saw your brother,, I think I was back there with you until somewhere around that point, and then the nurse finally says, well, okay, you can't back out at this point. We're a go. We're go for liftoff. So,, I give you a hug and a kiss. Take your glasses or put it in the bag and they wheel you out. So if you want to pick it back up from there, then then that would be great. Kimberly Cotton (00:11:49) - So,, right before she says, okay, we're good to go, the surgeon comes in, he's like, okay, there's you know, he marks the spot, literally marks the spot where, you know, things are going to happen. And so then the two little air ladies come in and they wheeled me down the hall. Kimberly Cotton (00:12:08) - We were supposed to have rooms right next to each other, but,, that didn't happen. So as they were wheeling me back to the E.R.,, or the E.R., the operating room,, I saw my. They'd paused at my brother's door, and that's when it got me. I had been fine. I hadn't cried or anything until that point, and I paused and I said, okay, I'll see you on the other side. And he said, thank you again, I love you. And I'm crying as she's willing me back. I'm fine. Nobody else is with me. It's just the poor ladies listening to me cry with me. Back to the operating room. But once I'm through the doors, it was. It happened so fast.. They killed me in. They got the table ready that I was going to be on. They scooted me over. They laid me on my side. They put the oxygen mask on me, and I didn't even count to ten. And I was out. Kimberly Cotton (00:13:14) - I don't remember anything after that. The only the next time I woke up was in the recovery, and I had lots of blankets on me because I think I was shivering because it was cold., and I just remember I had two nurses continuously checking on me. How are you doing? Do you need this? Do you need that? And the only thing I said was, is where's my husband? Can I see my husband? And so I think that's at the point. They went and got you and brought you back. The problem was, is I had to stay in recovery for quite some time. Our surgery was early and so it lasted, what, four hours, I think something like that. Chris Cotton (00:13:56) - Yeah. They, they told they pretty much told us this is a four hour surgery and, and we're going to have you because of the staging and everything. I guess they give you kind of like they give you like an hour headstart and then and then then they start start on, started on your brother and and then they've got your kidney, which they, the doctor said, hey, it looks pink. Chris Cotton (00:14:20) - It's great. We cleaned it up. And so basically they will you out to recovery and then and then clean up the kidney, get it put into your brother and and then he's off and going. But, yeah we had a trouble. We had trouble getting into the actual,, the room that we that not not not I guess ICU or recovery, but your actual room that we stayed in for two nights. Yeah., so you were done by 11, and I think we had you in your room by five. So we kind of sat around for spent more time sitting around trying to get you into another room than than the operation took. Kimberly Cotton (00:14:59) - Yeah., luckily I slept a lot during that time., so it wasn't too bad for me., it was just. I was just down there for a long time, so. Not a big deal. They got me up into a room., and actually, I, I was hungry,, when we finally did make it up to the room,, so I, I think we had tried to order something through the hospital, but they, the time had passed when they were delivering meals and stuff. Kimberly Cotton (00:15:31) - , I did you bring me something or did I? I don't even remember what I had that I. Chris Cotton (00:15:36) - Think I think we, I think I got you, I was able to get you something that you could eat. Kimberly Cotton (00:15:41) - I don't think I was very hungry, but I wanted something small, so. Chris Cotton (00:15:45) - Well. And and to give everybody like the idea of the recovery room you're in, basically, it's just like a long row of beds with like 10 to 15 slots on either side. And when I first went down there, you didn't have anybody next to you. So then we got you some ice water. I think we got you some pudding then or something. Yeah., but because the HIPAA regulations, they were bringing other people down on either side of you, and they had me leave. Yeah., but so we. So we got you to the room and kind of settled in a little bit., and we were trying to manage your pain, and I think, I think one of the important things, if you're listening and you're going to go through this out there, they talk about this. Chris Cotton (00:16:32) - It's not a phantom pain. But what happens is, is where the kidney was. And they insert these robot fingers inside your body and they blow up your abdomen with nitrogen. And and they do this with a robot. And they try to get all the air out, but they can't. And what happens is, is the air or the nitrogen that's left pushes on your diaphragm. And when that happens, your body thinks your shoulder hurts. So it has this like tremendous pain in your shoulder. And I've seen Kimberly,, give birth. I've seen her do all kinds of stuff in 25 plus years that we've been together. And I've never heard her. Yell in pain or anything like that. And oh, maybe that's what had happened. I'd gone and got you something to eat. And then I went and got me something to eat. And when I was coming back, I heard you hollering down the hallway I had. Kimberly Cotton (00:17:30) - Yeah, you hadn't probably been gone 20, 30 minutes maybe. And the pain all of a sudden hit me so hard. Kimberly Cotton (00:17:38) - So I pushed the nurses button and took them, you know, longer than I wanted to them for them to respond. But they finally responded and they said, can we help you? And I said, I need something for the pain. My I'm absolutely excruciating right now. And they said, what on the scale of what to what I'm like, I am above a ten. I mean, this is awful., and so it took them a little bit and then he could hear me moaning and groaning down the hallway, and I think he sprinted to the room after he could hear me., but it just hurts so bad., and it's the strangest thing I don't get it., but it wasn't just one shoulder. It was across my back, right at my clavicle. And it just so hurt, so bad until the pain medication finally kicked in., initially, I had only wanted to stay one night in the hospital, but everybody was like, just see how you feel. See how you're doing. Kimberly Cotton (00:18:41) - Well, the next day, the doctor,, comes. Another one comes in and takes me over, and he looks at me and he's like, yeah, you're spending another night. He could tell the pain on my face. And it wasn't constant, but it was just enough for him to say, yeah, we're going to up the dosage of your pain medication. And you're saying I'm like, okay, so but after they up the dosage, it was much better and much more manageable. Chris Cotton (00:19:07) - So, so out of all the things that they didn't tell us, this was kind of like the big moment or less and not right then. But,, so they wanted me to get her up and have her walking like at 8 p.m. that night. And so that happened. I think we took you for a walk before this happened. Yeah, but but what nobody told us was, was about 30 minutes before you get up to walk, call a nurse, have them give you the pain medication. That way, when you're sore and hurting after the walk, you've already been medicated and you're good to go. Chris Cotton (00:19:44) - So I think I think we walked you that night. I think we walked you a couple times that next day. And then I think the nurse that came in the following night was the one that was like, hey, you guys should be taking pain medication before you walk. And nobody, nobody told us that up until then. And that's,, that's like some Ron White. That's good information to know, right? Like. Yeah. 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